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re: If LSU is a premier baseball program

Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:02 pm to
Dean was never more than a grad assistant here and took over a really bad UNO program. A little different than giving someone like him the hitting coach at LSU... at least it used to be. I wasn't a really fan of either hire tbh. It's become apparent the offensive approach is PM's and the hitting coach does very little in making adjustments mid game or otherwise. For years the most improvement/changes our hitters have seen is when the go play summer ball.

ETA: PM has even been quoted that a hitting coach is pointless.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:02 pm to
Why go to that well when you don't have to?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:03 pm to
I cant speak for PM. I know Gibbs played 6 years in the minors. I know he's been giving private lessons in the offseason for a few years now. I know he's been around the program the last few years. My guess is PM felt safe with his contributions to the program and knowledge from his playing days.

and again, it was November when AC took the MSU job. The season started in Febuary. It was a timing thing more than anything.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:04 pm to
He could've found 5000 high school coaches better than Gibbs to take the job. PM has done an infinite amount of dumb things as coach but hiring Gibbs might take the cake.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:05 pm to
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My guess is PM felt safe with his contributions to the program and knowledge from his playing days.
Or he had no other option. And I went back and looked... AC left the last week of october. And it was known a few weeks before then that he had interviewed for the State job behind PM's back.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:07 pm to
Im not really talking about what Dean did here at LSU, more so him turning UNO around given his age(27) and having no major coaching experience outside of his 1 or 2 years at UNO under Maestri.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:07 pm to
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and again, it was November when AC took the MSU job. The season started in Febuary. It was a timing thing more than anything.


Agreed
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:09 pm to
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more so him turning UNO around given his age(27) and having no major coaching experience outside of his 1 or 2 years at UNO under Maestri.
He's 29 or 30 now right?

He definitely proved me wrong so far. He's done very well from where it was. He's pulling in some guys and he's done well with both young and experienced teams. It's looking like they'll only get better. But the point everyone is trying to make that LSU isn't typically the kind of program to give someone like him a chance unless he does have the kind of experience he is getting. That's all.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:10 pm to
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Or he had no other option


That's pretty much my point ell


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AC left the last week of october. And it was known a few weeks before then that he had interviewed for the State job behind PM's back.


it became official Nov 5th. and had just started being rumored around Nov 3rd. Regardless if it was the last week of Oct or nov, it was a timing thing more then anything. Coaches dont leave school in November. Could you imagine Matt Canada taking a job this July before LSU football starts? I couldnt, because that shite rarely happens in any sport
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:13 pm to
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He could've found 5000 high school coaches better than Gibbs to take the job. PM has done an infinite amount of dumb things as coach but hiring Gibbs might take the cake.



same scenario. How many high school coaches are going to abandon their jobs in November with the season on the horizon? maybe 1 or 2 pieces of shite, yea. It's not even a fair situation to put a coach in
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:13 pm to
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it became official Nov 5th. and had just started being rumored around Nov 3rd. Regardless if it was the last week of Oct or nov, it was a timing thing more then anything. Coaches dont leave school in November. Could you imagine Matt Canada taking a job this July before LSU football starts? I couldnt, because that shite rarely happens in any sport
We're on the same page with this. I get what you're saying. My point was only that guys PM has hired don't typically have experience to begin with and that the approach has changed very little, only the types of hitters. PM still likes being aggressive. He still makes non-percentage calls early in the game. I'm not really sure he gives the hitting coach much room to do anything.
Posted by icoczar
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:16 pm to
FIFY "was" a premier program
Posted by ElderTiger
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:17 pm to
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If LSU is a premier baseball program


I'm beginning to think not.
Posted by GeologyGrad88
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:20 pm to
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3 premier players - that's it. Rest are a bunch of scrubs!


3 premier players??? Pray tell, who are they? Now, Robinson might be a premier look-alike for Lil' Sweet. Herr Diechmann is a premier gum chomper whose eye black looks like a Batman design. Who else??
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:22 pm to
LSU will have a new hitting coach for next season. Gibbs was a one year stop gap from the beginning. CPM tried to spin the hire as much as possible. A hitting coach can be a good asset but it's not as important as a good pitching coach. A hitting coach can say all he wants but he's not involved in every pitch like a pitching coach is. The hitters have to go up there and execute. This team misses Cannizaro's huddles between innings. I always thought he did them at the right time when he noticed the team was pressing. That is where the asset of hitting coach can be.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:23 pm to
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LSU will have a new hitting coach for next season.
With the approach PM forces, I'm not sure how much it would matter.
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This team misses Cannizaro's huddles between innings.
This was one of the things I mentioned at the beginning of the season. Looking for someone to help them make those mid-game adjustments. Even if it's just a simple regroup. No idea if anything like that happens.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:24 pm to
That money in the budget went to lining Paul's pockets with a 50% raise
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:34 pm to
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Looking for someone to help them make those mid-game adjustments.


I don't even think that's what those meetings were about. Cannizzaro even said that he would mainly just let them talk to each other. It just seemed to always calm them down.

Kramer is pressing big time. He might need to be moved down in the lineup or even sit a game. Deichmann is letting the walks get to him. He watched a hittable pitch on strike three with a man on. If you are gonna be that guy when you do get a pitch to hit you can't miss it. Slaughter probably could sit and watch a game also. Watson doesn't look comfortable at the plate at times. It is time for a major shake up. I don't even know what it is but someone on the bench needs to be given a shot. Romero Reid Woley status quo is not working. Still time to turn it around if you push the right buttons.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:35 pm to
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Kramer is pressing big time
He's not alone though. I can't defend him because he's by far the worst, but every hitter on this team has had the worst ABs of their life in the last 7 days.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:37 pm to
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How many high school coaches are going to abandon their jobs in November with the season on the horizon?
How many college assistant coaches abandon their team for a better job with the season on the horizon?
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