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re: If JJ's play leads to a loss...

Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:31 am to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:31 am to
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not having enough evidence doesnt necessarily equal wrongfully accused


And in America, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Though I think there is a caveat that allows fans of a football program to assume guilt based on perceived poor play, but I may be mistaken.
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1383 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:32 am to
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the last couple years of this qb debacle says otherwise

- one year he made the guy throwing pick 6's the backup in favor of another guy who took sacks
- next year he went 11-2 and was top-10 ranked at the end of the season

What did you want Miles to do the last two years?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85703 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:34 am to
Obviously start over witha diff qb and go through his growing pains.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8195 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:36 am to
What if Miles elected to go for it on 4th down and on that same play LSU scored a game winner....but at the same time your mom suffered a heart attack?

Would you ever forgive Miles? Would you?
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1383 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:39 am to
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I would lose alot of respect for LM if JJ even takes a snap

You should prepare to lose some respect then.
quote:

He let his team down and its over

Hope you never let anyone down ever.
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2508 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:40 am to
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What did you want Miles to do the last two years?

bench the one that was one of the worst rated passers in the country and award the guy that outplayed him.

Lee has proven without a doubt that he had what it took to lead this team and actually put up numbers with this offense.

Think there is a good argument to be made that with Lee as the fulltime starter last year that we would have at least made it to Atlanta.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7382 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:44 am to
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Think there is a good argument to be made that with Lee as the fulltime starter last year that we would have at least made it to Atlanta.

You saw the Auburn game right? Lee was just as ineffective as JJ that day. Now, I do think Lee should have had more snaps against Arky to see if he could jump start the offense, which maybe could have led to a BCS bowl. But Atlanta wasn't happening last year no matter the QB.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:46 am to
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I thought about that. They'll say that JJ ruined the team's chemistry and that it's his fault for distracting the team.

JJ should refuse to play this year. He can't win.


That redshirt sure looks promising don't it? I say if JL is struggling then go to Mett, if he struggles then burn the red off JJ to potentially win the NC. Otherwise, as stated many times, any negative outcomes will be blamed on JJ, and any positive outcomes will be given to Lee and OC.
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2508 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:49 am to
just think the offense as a whole could have been playing at much higher level with JL as the every down starter. The whole rotation thing seemed to give the offense no rhythm for a large part of the season. No telling what the offense could have looked like going into that Auburn game if Lee had been getting all the reps leading up to it.

this is all hypothetical of course
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85703 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:51 am to
Dude lee played terrible in every game but Uf, and a few plays in tenn. He had one play against bama. Sorry but you are wrong. Gary Crowton was always the problem. Hows maryland doing?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85703 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:54 am to
What if Jj received all the reps? What if lee didnt play every 3rd series? Our iffense dudnt do much until the 2nd half of every game this year.
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2508 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:59 am to
So you equate all Lee's success this year to the new OCs? The ones that named JJ the starter in the spring?

How did he go from terrible to looking like a championship qb this season?

Think he would have been just as effective last year as he has been this year if only he had been given the chance to be the true leader of this team that he has proven that he is

Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:02 am to
JJ has been pretty atrocious leading this offense for two straight years. I don't understand what would differ this year. Its like the fans are insane because they keep expecting different results from the same player.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49054 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:05 am to
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So you equate all Lee's success this year to the new OCs?


Mostly.

We are putting Lee in a position to succeed. Something that hasn't occurred with our QBs in the last three years.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49054 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:06 am to
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JJ has been pretty atrocious leading this offense for two straight years. I don't understand what would differ this year.


Because nothing as changed with our offense from last year to this year, right?

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85703 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:07 am to
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So you equate all Lee's success this year to the new OCs? The ones that named JJ the starter in the spring? How did he go from terrible to looking like a championship qb this season? Think he would have been just as effective last year as he has been this year if only he had been given the chance to be the true leader of this team that he has proven that he is


So since we have not seen JJ play you can make that same assessment? This has nothing to do with our Oline, D, Run game, Wrs? Has nothing to do with the crazy substitution packages? Has nothing to do with the team as a whole being better? Has nothing to do with Kragthorpe? So lee Just got better over night? We might as well fire Les rt now then.

Seriously though, if we see the same shite we did last year then i will admit you are rt. But i have a strong feeling you wont. Stud said you wont be seeing crazy substitutions with the clock clicking down and the game on the line. That Was all Crowton. Temple beat maryland 38-7. Crowtons offense is fricking awesome.
This post was edited on 9/29/11 at 11:11 am
Posted by TIGEREYE1
LAFAYETTE
Member since Aug 2011
275 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:08 am to
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2508 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:09 am to
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We are putting Lee in a position to succeed. Something that hasn't occurred with our QBs in the last three years.


because of letting one of the worst rated QBs in the country continue starting every game

I agree now that Lee has been given the opportunity to play every down he is in a much better position to succeed.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85703 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:12 am to
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I agree now that Lee has been given the opportunity to play every down he is in a much better position to succeed.


People were calling for mett after the oregon and northwestern st game.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:15 am to
I can forgive Miles for a lot of things, even Ole Miss 09. Playing Jefferson is not one of them. A handful of plays a game a la Perrilloux 07 is ok. Anything more is dumber than...well, JJ.
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