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re: If I told you 10 years ago that LSU would get paired with the winningest active coach

Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14118 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:09 pm to
BK sucks arse still?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3395 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:12 pm to
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rebuilding a decimated roster

Wouldn't that imply starting at zero and getting better? Kelly's LSU teams have gotten demonstrably worse each season.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7033 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Just stop with this nonsense.
So, you're acknowledging that my post is correct. Saban did NOT win a national championship in his 3rd year.
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1. Saban won the SEC championship and the Sugar Bowl in his 2nd season.
Kelly won the SEC West in his 1st season. What took Saban so long?
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2. LSU was rolling and 6-1 until Matt Mauck broke his leg against Florida in the 4th quarter with lsu up big in his 3rd season. No broken leg, lsu rolls to a sec west title.
Why was Matt Mauck playing in the 4th quarter with LSU up big? Oh, those 6 wins were against perennial powerhouses:

1. The Citadel
2. Miami of Ohio
3. Mississippi State
4. University of Louisiana Lafayette
5. Florida (under Ron Zook)
6. South Carolina (finished at 5-7)
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7033 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7565 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:24 pm to
Would you also have included NIL and Transfer Portal to the conversation?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41713 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Wouldn't that imply starting at zero and getting better? Kelly's LSU teams have gotten demonstrably worse each season.


What used to be done after starting at zero is not what is in place now. At one point, you would recruit your way to improvement. That is only part of the equation in this new era.

Now, with NIL $ and unrestricted free agency, BK was put into a bad spot with an empty piggy bank. LSU was SLOW to get into the NIL game, and it showed.

Fortunately, there is now some NOL cash to splash.

If we keep both of the coordinators and the key members of the staff, I see this team making the playoffs with Nuss returning.

Splashing some of the newly available NIL cash on a TE, DE, OT, and CB will only help.

Just my .02.
Posted by Irish ND fan
Ireland
Member since Feb 2022
77 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:37 pm to
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And not only fail to qualify for a 12 team playoff but fail to crack the top 25.

What would you have said?


That he's an above average golfer whose game has improved since moving south to warmer climes?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41713 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:37 pm to
You are making a lot of sense.

Saban left primarily due to the new dynamics in place with the NIL and unrestricted free agency.

It is a different world now.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:38 pm to
Oops his fourth.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19689 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:41 pm to
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That he must’ve inherited a train wreck from the previous coach
he's complete his third year - plenty of time to turn it around.

How long will you use this excuse? Serious question, please provide an answer as to how many years Kelly gets to use the "Orgeron bare cupboard" excuse.

Clearly you think 3 years isn't enough - but how many years will it take? 4? 5? More than that?

Please be honest with your answer.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3395 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:00 pm to
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What used to be done after starting at zero is not what is in place now. At one point, you would recruit your way to improvement. That is only part of the equation in this new era.

Now, with NIL $ and unrestricted free agency, BK was put into a bad spot with an empty piggy bank. LSU was SLOW to get into the NIL game, and it showed.

Fortunately, there is now some NOL cash to splash.

If we keep both of the coordinators and the key members of the staff, I see this team making the playoffs with Nuss returning.

Splashing some of the newly available NIL cash on a TE, DE, OT, and CB will only help.

Kelly's LSU teams have consistently looked unprepared - especially in openers. That's coaching, not talent.
Posted by BayouBengals21
Member since Mar 2020
190 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:03 pm to
Well 10 years ago, the rules of college football were a lot different. Hell 5 years ago the rules were different. Look around, the transfer portal and NIL has completely changed the game and the way teams are built. 2019 will forever be the GOAT
Posted by Cannon856
Watson
Member since Nov 2019
884 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Saban won a national championship in his 3rd year and he inherited a lot worse than Kelly did.


You know nothing about college football if you think that. Saban didn’t inherit only 39 scholarship players
Posted by Cannon856
Watson
Member since Nov 2019
884 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:05 pm to
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Shut the frick up


You shut the phuck up you dumb asss ignorant fool.
Posted by Cannon856
Watson
Member since Nov 2019
884 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:07 pm to
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and yet not only did he lead us to an undefeated national championship, that was our only 10 win regular season since 2012. We haven’t been elite in a while under anyone except that one lightning in a bottle season


Still doesn’t change the fact that O left this program in shambles. He was too busy chasing tail instead of running a program.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41713 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:08 pm to
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Kelly's LSU teams have consistently looked unprepared - especially in openers. That's coaching, not talent.


I would suggest it is both, but more of the latter.

You can make chicken salad out of chicken shite, but don’t expect to like the offering.

Jaden Daniels hid a lot of flaws.

This team is still in rebuild mode.

More NIL $ may (probably will) equate to better outcomes.

Are you putting money into the NIL fund?
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41713 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:10 pm to
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Saban won a national championship in his 3rd year and he inherited a lot worse than Kelly did.


Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3395 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:26 pm to
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Are you putting money into the NIL fund?

No, somebody has to donate to the Foundation.

Besides, I'm against NIL.
Posted by WhySoSerious
No.
Member since Jan 2014
884 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:29 pm to
The Ed O excuse is over. Only a fricking meth baby would still be blaming a coaches failures on the precious staff 3 years later. AFTER THE COACH SAID JUDGE HIM BY YEAR 3. You and the rest of these Brian Kelly apologists can take your excuses, run them through glue & glass then shove them straight up your mother’s arse. He’s not the coach for LSU.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64261 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:32 pm to
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That he must’ve inherited a train wreck from the previous coach


How many years until this excuse runs out? Next year will be a full FR-SR class out of the program and only BK players.
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