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re: I was one of the guys who wanted Tom Herman
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:30 am to MontanaTiger
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:30 am to MontanaTiger
This is interesting. I wanted Herman 1st and then Jimbo 2nd and when both of those became unavailable I thought at that 2nd tier Coach O made the most sense (I think it was Mullen, Fedora from UNC, etc.) I do believe the pitch from O to Alleva was- "hire me for less money and I'll keep Aranda and bring in Kiffin, stay out of their ways and recruit like crazy" and that was the best available choice and frankly has worked out about as well as it could have. Air Canada, and the reaction to him, could have totally wrecked this program but Coach O really responded correctly to that...
But we have no way of knowing if Herman could have worked out here or hell, maybe Mullen is about to make Florida relevant again; who's to say he couldn't have done that here?
But it's a nice academic exercise to have after winning the Natty!
But we have no way of knowing if Herman could have worked out here or hell, maybe Mullen is about to make Florida relevant again; who's to say he couldn't have done that here?
But it's a nice academic exercise to have after winning the Natty!
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Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:09 am to TchPowDog
Me too. Wanted Herman bad and thought O was the wrong hire.
I did say I hoped I was wrong the whole time. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!
I did say I hoped I was wrong the whole time. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:22 am to kkv75
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:35 am to TchPowDog
We tend to focus on Saban and Meyer acolytes as the most desireable, but there is something to be said about working in a multitude of coaching philosophies like Orgeron....whether it was Johnson/Erickson at Miami whrte he won a natty..or Pete Carroll where USC won 2 AP Championships.
Pete Carroll is one hell of a coach....only he and Jimmy Johnson have both a national Championship and a SuperBowl Championship as head coaches
Pete Carroll is one hell of a coach....only he and Jimmy Johnson have both a national Championship and a SuperBowl Championship as head coaches
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:37 am to TchPowDog
I got raped on here for sticking up for him after the Troy game.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:57 am to TchPowDog
Am I bragging if I said I liked the hire from the beginning. 
Posted on 8/16/20 at 2:05 pm to josh336
quote:
Herman has done nothing to show that he would have been bad here
Huh ?????
Posted on 8/16/20 at 2:20 pm to TchPowDog
never was a jumbo fan, he left fsu in bad shape and Herman was a hot name at the right time, but didn’t think he was worth that much
i was ok with the O hire considering what his salary was..i honestly would have been ok with 3-4 losses provided the offense looked much better
dude earned every bit of it and came through when many doubted him
i was ok with the O hire considering what his salary was..i honestly would have been ok with 3-4 losses provided the offense looked much better
dude earned every bit of it and came through when many doubted him
Posted on 8/16/20 at 2:56 pm to josh336
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Herman has done nothing to show that he would have been bad here
This is his current records at Texas:
2017 - 7-6
2018 - 9-4
2019 - 8-5
Losses to Iowa State, Maryland, Texas Tech, near loss to Kansas at home last year... As head coach at UT (University of Texas)... in the Big12...
He has FAR SUPERIOR talent to everyone else in the Big12 except for Oklahoma.
8-5 in your 3rd year at Texas is bad. Texas should be a two-loss minimum team each year. No excuses to lose more than that.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:23 pm to TchPowDog
Who was is that hired Orgeron again? Cant remember
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:04 pm to TchPowDog
Let’s so how does without Burrow
Give him credit for getting Joe though
Hopefully miles crushes it
Give him credit for getting Joe though
Hopefully miles crushes it
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:19 pm to TchPowDog
quote:not me. Did not want.
I was one of the guys who wanted Tom Herman
Jimbo- yeah, wanted him. Putting 2nd half of tenure at FSU with TAMU, I'm very happy that deal went south. I'm going to say at best we would have stopped the slow decline (no elevation), and that's at best.
CEO- was hopeful, "let's see what happens" guy. My hopefullness was based in his tenure at USC after OM. My thought was could see a glimmer of what he learned from the OM disaster.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:24 pm to josh336
quote:
Herman has done nothing to show that he would have been bad here
LSU had more draft picks in the first 3 rounds in 2020 than Herman has had in 3 years
He’s had a measly 3 players drafted on offense the last 3 seasons
His book is not yet written but he is taking on water
O, in a tougher conference, with no offensive background, has figured it out much faster.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:25 pm to ninthward
It takes an astute guy to admit such, pretty awesome dude! I’m from “down the bayou” sort a speak so I was ALWAYS a HUGE fan of the hiring of CEO! He’s even exceeded my wildest expectations and I can’t wait to see what the future holds for him and our beloved TIGERS!!!! GEAUX TIGERS!!!!
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:25 pm to TchPowDog
I’ll admit I didn’t want O. Sometimes being wrong is wonderful
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:39 pm to UncleRuckus
I was happy with O. Thought he would continue the good recruiting and you need talent to win. I new he could attract good coaches because of the traits that make him a good recruiter. I did not want Herman or Fisher.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 8:19 pm to TchPowDog
quote:
I was one of the guys who wanted Tom Herman
It’s always nice to see the experts humble themselves.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:25 am to TchPowDog
Same here. Wanted Jimbo in 2015. I was okay with O cause I knew he could recruit. Yes Les could as well but I was holding out hope that O would fix the offense and he finally has.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:24 pm to lucki98
quote:
I wanted Jimbo Fisher.
Holy crap, NO. Jimbo is going to be a financial albatross for TAM and he will not, in my opinion, deliver quality results. I have never thought Jimbo was a good head coach.
quote:
I’m glad I was wrong
I'm glad you were wrong too.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:27 pm to ninthward
I was less upset about O and more upset that again, LSU could not get its person because of administration incompetence. I supported O but was skeptical. I remember saying we fired a national championship coach to get a guy that won 3 games in the SEC. So I was not a detractor but not a supporter. But once he was hired, he was a tiger and I support the tigers.
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