re: I told ya Jayden will stay. We gave Joe Burrow two yrs.

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People understand Daniels has "started" for 4 years, but the point being made by some is that Daniels has only played 1 season at LSU, in Denbrock's system

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His problems aren’t system related. If they were he would’ve got better as he learned it throughout the system. His play actually peaked then fell off at the end of the season. Stop making excuses and stop disrespecting Joe by comparing JD to him.

Fricking Nuss had just as much time around the system and less game experience. Came in and seemed to have control of the offense. Difference between the two is Nuss isn’t scared to throw the ball.

While Nuss seems to be a little more loose with the ball than JD one can argue taking 43 sacks is equal or worse than 5-10 ints depending on the timing of the sacks.

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JJ actually passed downfield better. let that sink in. I think JD5 is topped out. he is not turning into a matt mauck who was an anomaly. a run first guy who turned into a very good passer.

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Holy shite what a horrible post. Please provide the stats that prove jefferson was a better down the field passer.

Daniels averaged 7.5 yds per att this year. Jefferson didnt do that in any season.
Daniels averaged 8 air yards per attempt, jefferson never averaged more than 7.7. And thats just passing. As a rusher daniels is 3-4 times the runner jefferson was.

And funny you mention mauck, his numbers are similar to daniels as a passer. Yards wise for the season, completion percentage wise and yards per attempt. And we know daniels is way ahead of mauck as a runner

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But evidence suggests it would be alot more

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Evidence suggest JD can’t consistently complete passes more than 10 yards down the field. Evidence also suggest he gets sacked way too much dating back to his time at ASU but here we are.

Hooker played in UT's system 1 year and look at the results. Caleb Williams has been in USC's system for 1 year, albeit pretty much the system they brought from Oklahoma. However, he's only a sophomore and had WAAY better stats than Daniels. Hurts played in Oklahoma's system for 1 year, threw for 32 TD's and ran for 20.

JD had 7 passing TD's against 0 Int's in his best 3-game stretch (UF, Ole Miss, and Bama). Then proceed to throw 2 TD's against 2 Int's in his last four games. That's not improvement. Not to mention 86 total yards passing against Arky, a team with 1 of the worst passing defenses in the conference.

In 13 games, he failed to throw a single TD in 4 of them. That's close to a third of his games. Everyone THOUGHT he turned a corner during that great 3-game stretch but it didn't last. What indicator are you using to say he improved? Watching film breakdowns, he still misses tons of open receivers and throws late on many of his passes. His throws are usually wobbly as well and rarely do you see a spiral from him.

Daniels is a decent QB that can sometimes play above average football. Hopefully he makes a huge leap in his 5th season starting. If not, it'll be another season of frustration watching him hold the ball too long and eat unnecessary sacks.

More QB's make the biggest jump their 2nd season of starting. It occurs a lot more often than a 4th year QB making a big jump. As a matter of fact, Jason Campbell had 2,267 yards and 10 passing TD's against 8 Int's in 2003. He had 2,700 yards, 20 TD's, and 7 Int's in 2004. The fact that they went undefeated had less to do with Campbell's lone ability to pass and more to do with the fact they ran for about 2,500 yards that season and 25 TD's. Also lastly, he was mediocre in the NFL. His most "productive" season he threw for 3,600 yards, 20 TD's, and 15 Int's. For contrast, he was worse than Baker Mayfield Jameis Winston.

Back to CFB. Yes, JD can improve next year. But odds are against him having a meteoric rise in performance. The sad part is HE is what's limiting him. He has the tools, he just hesitates too often. In this conference, defenders are as good as the WR's. If they're beat, they can recover if you don't make them pay. JD lets them off the hook too often with late throws OR by not throwing the ball at all.

What about the 80 yard game against Auburn and the 86 yard game against Arky. Arky was the worst pass defense in the SEC at the time. UF and Ole Miss are in the bottom half of the conference in pass defense as well.

Realistically, JD beat Bama and Ole Miss, the lone 2 unexpected victories. We started the season with a loss to Fl. ST....unexpected. We got blasted by Tennessee...expected. Struggled with Arky and their backup QB...unexpected. We got embarrassed by TAMU...unexpected. We got blasted by UGA...expected. I don't put stock into what the media expects and their rankings before the season starts. With that said, we won 2 unexpected games all season and loss 2 unexpected games.

Florida sucked this year. We all talked about how Ole Miss would lose to us and that would be the start of multiple losses to come. It happened. The only good team we beat was Bama. And we used a 2 pt. conversion in OT so it wasn't as if we were head and shoulders better. Clearly the SEC is down this year. We had 3 games where we looked like we shouldn't have even been on the field with our opponents ( Tenn., TAMU, and UGA).

Now if we don't win our bowl game, we'll end the season on a 3-game losing streak. Yes, we won the SECW and that was an accomplishment. However, a 3-game losing streak is not how any team wants to end their "accomplished" season.