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re: I think this defense could be elite
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:28 am to mcspufftiger7
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:28 am to mcspufftiger7
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A great Dline makes your DB's elite.
Agreed, and I believe that applies at every level of the DEF this year. We truly have multiple guys at every level that can impact the game. Just do YOUR JOB. Know your responsibility and execute it to the best of your ability knowing your brothers in front of you or behind you are doing the same. Collectively this group can set an already potent OFF up for more success.
It's a lot to ask to have this group operate as a truly cohesive unit week 1, but if they do, or even close to it, we'll walk out there with a W. Our OFF is going to score some points. Our DEF just needs a handful of drive-killing stops.
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:32 am to Hurricane2020
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That 2019 defense was absolutely elite at the end of the year.
They had the #11 FPI defensive efficiency rating in 2019 even after losing half the defense to injury early in the year. After the Arkansas game LSU had a top 5 defense in the country.
That's why I said they were very good when we needed them to be. Are we talking about the season or a select number of games at the end of the year? If so, I absolutely think they can be elite against Arkansas, Western Kentucky, and Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:34 am to Bert Macklin FBI
If the DC can't scheme to stop a mobile QB, none of this matters.
As of now, for whatever reason, Baker is unable to do so.
Let's hope this changes.
As of now, for whatever reason, Baker is unable to do so.
Let's hope this changes.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:45 am to Bert Macklin FBI
These threads are so tiresome to me
You take the time to list every single key player or addition to the roster, then list their strengths so internally you feel like LSU has everything in place to make a run
What yall fail to realize is that just about every single top team in the SEC and across the country can do the same exact thing. It’s D1 football. Everyone has top notch athletes with strong recruiting profiles
It all comes down to scheme and execution on a game to game basis.
You take the time to list every single key player or addition to the roster, then list their strengths so internally you feel like LSU has everything in place to make a run
What yall fail to realize is that just about every single top team in the SEC and across the country can do the same exact thing. It’s D1 football. Everyone has top notch athletes with strong recruiting profiles
It all comes down to scheme and execution on a game to game basis.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:46 am to JimTiger72
Pickett is 6'5? Damn.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:53 am to Alt26
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Whit is explosive, but prone to some missteps
He does kind of have slow feet in the lateral movement but mostly makes up for it with great instincts.
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Perkins is great...in space. Not so much when blockers can get to him.
He also stood around lost on a lot of plays because he didn't know his assignment. That's the kind of thing that experience and better coaching can hopefully fix.
That's two things that good OCs will be looking to exploit but hiding flaws and taking advantage of strengths is a DC's job. I think Baker is elite. Ask me in January.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:54 am to mcspufftiger7
That’s so true, Today’s QBs can dissect a D with time, ie Nuss if he has time or running game he will absolutely demolish a defense. If teams we play especially running QBs having no pressure from DL get the luxury of waiting til Receiver gets open or take off. With pressure and less time these QBs don’t have time. Milroe, Reed, and others best games came against Us. Think back to Johnny Football he never beat us + his worst games played, because of our DL. If the DL becomes good not even elite our whole defense(especially DBs & S) gel, imho we’re headed there. The potential commits and Dom, Breaux, Reliford, other RsFr, sophomores. We are trending up.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:54 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Worse in the NCAA to below average. Maybe even an average defense would finally be nice in BK Year 4. Expecting an Elite defense is just not reality.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:59 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Well LSU ranked 123, 66, 41, and 108 in total defense the 4 years prior to last season for an average of 84.5 and they're returning 3 starters(4 if you count Perkins) from a team that ranked 61st last year with 6 of the replacements having never played a down together(portal+freshmen)
Either take off the purple and gold glasses or stop smoking crack, nothing about is a recipe for elite defense. Cignetti was able to build a great defense out of the portal because the players all came from same team that he'd previously coached (JMU) and already had multiple years of chemistry together
Either take off the purple and gold glasses or stop smoking crack, nothing about is a recipe for elite defense. Cignetti was able to build a great defense out of the portal because the players all came from same team that he'd previously coached (JMU) and already had multiple years of chemistry together
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:00 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Pickett is a young pup but he’s been compared to Stingley, what if he’s that good? Is that not Elite?
Most of the reporters at camp has been saying Pickett has been getting torched
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:13 pm to SECCaptain
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SECCaptain
It’s TRant jackass. Of course people are going to be wearing purple and gold glasses. GTFOH
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:20 pm to TheRouxGuru
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What yall fail to realize is that just about every single top team in the SEC and across the country can do the same exact thing.
No they don't.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:25 pm to SECCaptain
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Either take off the purple and gold glasses or stop smoking crack, nothing about is a recipe for elite defense. Cignetti was able to build a great defense out of the portal because the players all came from same team that he'd previously coached (JMU) and already had multiple years of chemistry together
I love that you say a defense full of transfers cant be elite and the immediatley have to clarify why this other defense full pf transfers that was elite last year doesn't count.
I even said in my OP that I am waiting to see these guys play before getting fully excited but the pieces are there. We have fewer question marks, personnel wise, than the 2011 group did going into that year. Does that mean we will be 2011 good? Almost certainly not but the point is that personell wise, we have the makings of a very good defense.
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Well LSU ranked 123, 66, 41, and 108 in total defense the 4 years prior to last season for an average of 84.5 and they're returning 3 starters(4 if you count Perkins) from a team that ranked 61st last yea
If the old players weren't any good, I would think bringing in proven replacements would make us better by default...
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:51 pm to SECCaptain
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Well LSU ranked 123, 66, 41, and 108 in total defense the 4 years prior to last season for an average of 84.5 and they're returning 3 starters(4 if you count Perkins) from a team that ranked 61st last year with 6 of the replacements having never played a down together(portal+freshmen)
Normally having to replace a lot of starters isn't a good thing. But for this LSU team, it is. Many of the starters last year weren't very good. Ryan was awful at safety. Burns wasn't all that much better. The DT starters were average. As was Greg Brooks at LB. There is a reason LSU had only two defensive players drafted, Swinson and Jones, and they were in the 3rd and 5th round, respectively.
While they may not have an individual pass rusher that matches Swinson's production, the DL is going to be better as whole. At worst (barring injury) LB will be on par with last season. The DBs will be better as a whole. Mostly because I don't think LSU can be any worse at safety.
"Elite" remains to be seen, but there is no reason to think this defense won't be very much improved.
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Cignetti was able to build a great defense out of the portal because the players all came from same team that he'd previously coached (JMU) and already had multiple years of chemistry together
Well that, and the fact they played an awful schedule
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:57 pm to Alt26
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This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/5/25 at 1:10 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Front 7 will be elite and the DBs will be very good
Posted on 8/5/25 at 1:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I watch several different podcast that focus on LSU and they have all been very impressed (so far) with the play of the defense, especially the edge rushers.
They say the 1st Offense can't stop Bernard Goodson nor Harold Perkins.
They say the 1st Offense can't stop Bernard Goodson nor Harold Perkins.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 1:28 pm to SECCaptain
Now do Ole Miss’a D from last year.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 1:39 pm to SludgeFactory
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As of now, for whatever reason, Baker is unable to do so.
Anyone with a brain knows you have to have the right players to do so.
Baker was coaching with 1/2 a deck last year. Kinda hard to stop elite running QB’s with the talent we had last year. Plus.. when you lose two of the most talented players you have in week one (Jacobian Guillory and Harold Perkins) from a team already devoid of talent, and depth, you are in serious trouble.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 1:41 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Sure. Lol
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