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re: I still love Will Wade

Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:49 am to
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13061 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:49 am to
I am less concerned with whether the cupboard was empty when WW got here than I am about his leaving LSU under investigations and the threat of sanctions, which could also impact the football program.
WW cheated, got caught for doing stupid things and lied to LSU admins and BOS about it.
I thought WW was going to be great and loved him for a while, too.
He taught me that my admiration was misplaced.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 10:36 am
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4197 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 12:13 pm to
I agree 100% alt, and in retrospect, I shouldn't say I have my doubts. I am very happy with what McMahon has done so far, and his won-loss is very impressive. I just know Wade was going the Scott Drew route but quicker imo. I'm just happy LSU has become relevant again and I'm behind our coach I until he proves he can't win here.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2896 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 3:53 pm to
He needed to go

During his entire tenure the excitement was high but fell short coaching in post season

All due to the dreaded cloud “strong arse offer”

One wonders if he just were smarter about his phone conversation where would the LSU basketball be today

One conversation is all it takes to ruin a career
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2212 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

with zero research at all, Bobby Knight, Rick Pitino, and Brad Stevens jump to mind.


Bobby Knight

1965–66 Army 18–8 NIT Fourth Place
1966–67 Army 13–8
1967–68 Army 20–5 NIT First Round
1968–69 Army 18–10 NIT Fourth Place
1969–70 Army 22–6 NIT Third Place
1970–71 Army 11–13

1971–72 Indiana 17–8 9–5 T–3rd NIT First Round
1972–73 Indiana 22–6 11–3 1st NCAA Division I Final Four
1973–74 Indiana 23–5 12–2 T–1st CCAT Champion

Bobby Knight's trajectory closely resembles Wade's, with a stronger later years, reaching Final Four in year 8 and winning the Collegiate Commissioners Association Tournament in year 9. His better performance with the Hoosiers was possibly due to Indiana being a bigger name and not having the NCAA looking over his shoulder.

Rick Pitino

1978–79 Boston University 17–9
1979–80 Boston University 21–9 19–7 T–1st NIT Second Round
1980–81 Boston University 13–14 13–13 T–4th
1981–82 Boston University 19–9 6–2 4th
1982–83 Boston University 21–10 8–2 T–1st NCAA Division I Preliminary Round

1985–86 Providence 17–14 7–9 5th NIT Semifinal
1986–87 Providence 25–9 10–6 4th NCAA Division I Final Four

1989–90 Kentucky 14–14 10–8 T–4th* Ineligible*
1990–91 Kentucky 22–6 14–4 1st** Ineligible*

Pitino's trajectory is slightly better, as he reached Final Four with Providence in year 7 and making a famously sanctioned Kentucky team really good.

Brad Stevens

2007–08 Butler 30–4 16–2 1st NCAA Division I Round of 32
2008–09 Butler 26–6 15–3 1st NCAA Division I Round of 64
2009–10 Butler 33–5 18–0 1st NCAA Division I Runner-up
2010–11 Butler 28–10 13–5 T–1st NCAA Division I Runner-up
2011–12 Butler 22–15 11–7 T–3rd CBI Semifinal
2012–13 Butler 27–9 11–5 T–3rd NCAA Division I Round of 32

Well, no comparison here: six total years as a CBB coach and years 3 & 4 were losses in NCAAT final (and about an inch from winning in year 3.) That's one of the most impressive starts one can imagine.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20572 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:13 pm to
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Imagine the odds of being inadvertently surveilled by the FBI.

He has to be thinking he's the unluckiest person on the planet


Excellent point.


But I’m not sure that holds true anymore.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:01 am to
quote:

During his entire tenure the excitement was high but fell short coaching in post season

All due to the dreaded cloud “strong arse offer”
It strikes me that your opinion of WW "falling short coaching in the post season" being the result of the "strong arse offer" makes squat for sense, My Man.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23201 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:15 am to
WW was a marked man from the start....the NCAA is blueblood based, period.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17672 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

WW was a marked man from the start....the NCAA is blueblood based, period.


Exactly, once he made an enemy of Cal....of all people...it was over...Cal made sure it was over. The irony would be comical if it wasn't my school.
Posted by outerstater
Member since Jan 2022
903 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:39 pm to
Will we ever get rid of Wade. Looks like his memory (good or bad) will last forever.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2896 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:15 am to
quote:

Damathe


quote:

It strikes me that your opinion of WW "falling short coaching in the post season" being the result of the "strong arse offer" makes squat for sense,


In 5 seasons Will Wade coached in one post season

Missed two post seasons due to his wire taped conversation by the FBI. Season two Wade was suspended, season 5 Wade was dismissed, both seasons were a direct result of a cloud Wade created around the LSU basketball program
Posted by NorthSider72
Indy
Member since Dec 2021
818 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 7:26 am to
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ON PAPER McMahon


But everys team's roster is "ON PAPER" until they hit the floor. BUT, this team has been on the floor somewhere with some team. The coach doesn't play he coaches. And that isn't ON PAPER either. With his record of performance can anyone with half a brain think he's going to take these guys and lay a bomb? Now that's far fetched.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:34 am to
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and people hated him


Blind squirrels find nuts sometimes. It was obvious he wasn't a fundamental coach. And so you get hammered when up against equal talent with better coaching.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
9177 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:42 am to
Bama isn't going after Wade. Maybe Clemson. Bama pretty happy with their HC.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2860 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 10:16 am to
Very nice summary of everything that has gone down. In my eyes the Johnny Jones era was over when we blew that huge lead to North Carolina in the NCAA Tourney. That one was beyond painful. The Ben Simmons fiasco made us the laughing stock of college sports. Having a brash, aggressive young coach in Wade was just what we needed to move on. He just didn't take enough precautions and the result was also extremely painful which is why we still have this post.

Mcmahon now seems to be the antidote to Wade's recklessness. I think he has a very good chance of succeeding and being around for a long while. I do think he still has a very hard road to travel. Never has a roster been assembled in so quick a time from so many sources. You and I have already talked about how getting this team to play together with all the various egos is going to be a tough task. If he pulls that off we will do well.

By the way does anyone have Netflix and seen the movie Hustle. Look at the coach at the very end of the movie who is supposed to be coaching an NBA Combine team . He is a dead ringer for Mcmahon. It isn't him is it?
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