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re: I refuse to believe LSU is bad as it appears offensively
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:46 am to TIGRLEE
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:46 am to TIGRLEE
Take off those purple & gold glasses.
The tigers have been undisciplined all
year long. Where does the buck stop?
That's where you will find the answer. I'm
not saying we can't win at Fla. but the time
is now.
The tigers have been undisciplined all
year long. Where does the buck stop?
That's where you will find the answer. I'm
not saying we can't win at Fla. but the time
is now.
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Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:47 am to 1984Tiger
quote:
Until Mett can come out of the locker
room and show he's on-target, you're just not going to see a lot of passes over the middle.
Sadly this is likely true and was an issue for the last 3 years as well. Krags should be held accountable for not developing the QB at this point. If the QB cannot be taught to throw over the middle successfully, then he should ride the bench.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:51 am to windhammontanatigers
quote:
the jj/jl years have scarred miles for life." Mentioning this, Hanagriff on the post game show for the last 2 weeks has said as mucht. That Les became or reflected on the pick 6s during Lee's redshirt freshman year thinking that games could have been won had we went more conservative. Hanagriff says that if Miles get the inkling of that feeling he reins the offense in. Dont know for sure but sure looks that way.
Im on this train now
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:51 am to LSU Tiger Bob
quote:
When I can watch a game and call 50-60% of the plays before the snap, something is amiss.
Someone posted on here a couple weeks back of a couple former LSU players back and forth tweets watching one of the games and they were calling what plays were being run. Now that's not too shocking, but it does show how predictable Les is. If former players know where the ball is going on a play, then Saban or Muschamp or Spurrier prolly have a good idea as well.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 12:42 pm to TigerB8
Because if you can run the ball,play defense and not turn the ball over you can win 10 games a year and Miles keeps his job. Hell, we almost one it all last year without a functional passing game. We don't throw over the middle as much because of the risk of turning it over. This is Les Miles football.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 12:46 pm to lsu mike
Not for long if they continue to play like that. 
Posted on 9/30/12 at 12:52 pm to LSU Tiger Bob
quote:
When I can watch a game and call 50-60% of the plays before the snap, something is amiss.
You couldn't call 10%, unless "Run" and "Pass" is your idea of calling plays.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:15 pm to 1984Tiger
quote:Shallow crosses and sluggos aren't too risky vs the right coverage.
These passes thrown over the middle have a high probability of being intercepted
I doubt he has full faith in QB reads and he seems hot and cold as you say though.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:24 pm to BRAVEHEART
quote:
Like Alice Cooper said, we don't need no thought control.
That was Pink Floyd, however after another game like last night you can quote Cooper "Schools Out"
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:29 pm to TigerB8
quote:I don't think you fully realize how in depth college scouting is. Lemme help you
Someone posted on here a couple weeks back of a couple former LSU players back and forth tweets watching one of the games and they were calling what plays were being run. Now that's not too shocking, but it does show how predictable Les is. If former players know where the ball is going on a play, then Saban or Muschamp or Spurrier prolly have a good idea as well.
School hire firms that collect the All 22 film, both tight(line play) and wide(entire field shot from press box), and breaks it down. They didn't categorize the film. It gets really in depth, for example:
Plays called when ball is on right hash, on 1st and 10
Plays called when ball is on right hash, on 1st and 10, 11 personnel in game
Plays called when ball is on left hash, 3rd and 2, when 21 personnel is in game and 44 is at H back
Etc, etc.
They break down run/pass percentages, offensive and defensive tendencies, etc.
Then, the lucky GA's and SAC's get to burn the midnight oil diagramming plays and getting prepared for Team time in Monday's practice, where they will practice against a scout team running those plays everyday until the game. I guarantee you any coach we play against can call the play that we, or any other team is about to run with about 80% accuracy for an entire game based upon field position and personnel grouping. That's when the players have to use what they practiced all week to recognize and stop the play. For example, if that DE fits inside the pulling guard like he's supposed to on that counter Shep scored on, it's probably a loss of yards instead of a 70 yard TD run
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:35 pm to lsu mike
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TIGERLEE, get the hell out of here with all that realistic garble. We are 5-0 and thats all that matters
Don't know about you but I'm all for 'realistic garble'; this team is in fantasy mode right now - thinking how important wins are even after sub-par play. I'm tired of this 'a win is a win' shite. I want to see good execution and spirited play.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:36 pm to lsu mike
I am off the Les bandwagon he has fricked this team by dumbing down the offense to the point that a pop warner team could call the plays. That is why Mett looks the way he does. Florida game will just be the beginning. I think the team has no confidence in the game plan and I started with MNC
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:47 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Like always, Ill give him another game.. A solid performance vs fla and Im sure most will be back in his corner.
Youd think though sooner or later it would catch up with him.
Youd think though sooner or later it would catch up with him.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:48 pm to roscoe mike
quote:
If they could execute the plays they do call correctly, it wouldn't look so bad.
People can't seem to understand that. They blame missed blocks and throws on the play calling
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:53 pm to BRAVEHEART
quote:
Like Alice Cooper said, we don't need no thought control.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:56 pm to windhammontanatigers
quote:
"maybe the jj/jl years have scarred miles for life." Mentioning this, Hanagriff on the post game show for the last 2 weeks has said as mucht. That Les became or reflected on the pick 6s during Lee's redshirt freshman year thinking that games could have been won had we went more conservative. Hanagriff says that if Miles get the inkling of that feeling he reins the offense in.
Why Les is Les
This post was edited on 9/30/12 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:56 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
1) why les miles insists on running he football between th tackles when the defense has us outnumbered by one or more players ( yes I'm referring stack box)
Becasue it still works 75% of the time. It's our offensive identity to try and wear down opposing DL and if you alwys run to the outside, they will adjust so you have to keep showing them that are willing to conitnue to try and pound the ball. We had alot of ooutside runs last night with Ford and we saw the counter with RShep. I expect more of that.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:59 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
2) why we have this phobia it seems of throwing the ball acoss the middle of the field... Between numbers/hashes. You know, let a guy catch while he's running full stride..if you've paid attention so far this year I'd be willing to bet anyone here that 80% of the throws we make are curls/out patterns to the sideline.
2008 and alot of pick 6s that cost us games. That's the last time we actually let a QB try to sling it. Since then we went to a power run game and the record has gotten better each year. Hopefully they turn Mett loose at some point and give him the chance to stuff up the middle, b/c it really could work for LSU.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 2:02 pm to Larry Hollins
quote:
shep needs to be on field.
....but please used OBJ or Boone on the deep routes. No one else has proven they can catch them consistently.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 2:10 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
why we have this phobia it seems of throwing the ball acoss the middle of the field... Between numbers/hashes.
I believe that LSU has become so fixated on the tackle pass blocking that they have created another problem. They have resorted to keeping two backs or a TE in on pass blocking and we are only sending three recievers out and often the safety valve is still tied up blocking. It is no wonder Mett cant find anyone open when you send three out against six DB's. Result: Mett holds the ball too long.
Hell on OBJ's first TD catch he was the only reciever in the secondary. Oh his second there were only three. One was on a short route in front of him and one was all the way on the other sideline.
My point is that until LSU can burn these blitzing defenses with some quick throws and learn to throw on first down successfully we will not have any relief from this type of defensive strategy.
FWIW, McCarron looked like shiite against Ole Miss last night for the same reason but the difference was his receivers made some great catches.
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