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I really thought Brian Kelly was a technician in most facets of the game.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:00 am
To me, he still knows way more about football coaching than Miles or Orgeron. But maybe he doesn’t know how to teach toughness. I hope he can lean on Wilson/Davis/Raymond to demand toughness and limit the bad mental errors that young men make.
I was surprised for about thirty minutes after his hire. Then it set in that he was here to reverse everything that held this program back after 2019.
I think he underestimated three years being the benchmark. I think not buying players on the portal for an extra $2mm doesn’t help foster LSU’s $95mm ten year investment as well. And because of that we are seeing starters that maybe shouldn’t be starters.
It leads me to believe that the best coaches cover the majority of these facets.
1. Recruit good talent with good character and toughness.
2. Develop them emotionally, physically, mentally
3. Prepare them mentally during spring ball
4. Prepare them mentally for September (avoid UCLA/Wisconsin/USC f-ups)
5. Prepare them mentally for the rest of the year.
6. Have back ups mentally and physically prepared to come in right away
7. Have a great pregame plan
8. Make adjustments during the second quarter
9. Make adjustments during half and 3rd/4th quarters as well
10. Sustain success
11. Address failures
12. Learn from failures/success
13. Get better and grow as a coach
14. Keep pressing pedal when up with starters and 2nd/3rd team
15. Never give up when down
16. Hire the best coaching staff
17. Hone fundamentals like tackling and blocking
18. Address NIL or have AD address it
19. Be able to use portal correctly
20. Stop stupid mistakes
21. Understand clock management
22. Understand balanced offense to keep your defense off the field
23. Foster toughness in times of adversity and prosperity.
List goes on and on and they aren’t ranked. ETA. It looks like I have a lot of repeats and could pare the list down.
I was surprised for about thirty minutes after his hire. Then it set in that he was here to reverse everything that held this program back after 2019.
I think he underestimated three years being the benchmark. I think not buying players on the portal for an extra $2mm doesn’t help foster LSU’s $95mm ten year investment as well. And because of that we are seeing starters that maybe shouldn’t be starters.
It leads me to believe that the best coaches cover the majority of these facets.
1. Recruit good talent with good character and toughness.
2. Develop them emotionally, physically, mentally
3. Prepare them mentally during spring ball
4. Prepare them mentally for September (avoid UCLA/Wisconsin/USC f-ups)
5. Prepare them mentally for the rest of the year.
6. Have back ups mentally and physically prepared to come in right away
7. Have a great pregame plan
8. Make adjustments during the second quarter
9. Make adjustments during half and 3rd/4th quarters as well
10. Sustain success
11. Address failures
12. Learn from failures/success
13. Get better and grow as a coach
14. Keep pressing pedal when up with starters and 2nd/3rd team
15. Never give up when down
16. Hire the best coaching staff
17. Hone fundamentals like tackling and blocking
18. Address NIL or have AD address it
19. Be able to use portal correctly
20. Stop stupid mistakes
21. Understand clock management
22. Understand balanced offense to keep your defense off the field
23. Foster toughness in times of adversity and prosperity.
List goes on and on and they aren’t ranked. ETA. It looks like I have a lot of repeats and could pare the list down.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:18 am
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:01 am to dstone12
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16. Hire the best coaching staff
By far and away his most glaring weakness.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:09 am to dstone12
He’s a knowledgeable guy, but he doesn’t know shite about shite when it comes to getting his team up and ready to play. They come out so flat in almost every game.
Orgeron was a mongoloid, but the dude knew how to get his guys ready to play.
And that is the only niceish thing you’ll ever hear me say about Orgeron.
Orgeron was a mongoloid, but the dude knew how to get his guys ready to play.
And that is the only niceish thing you’ll ever hear me say about Orgeron.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:13 am to Paul Allen
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16. Hire the best coaching staff
linstead of hiring people who have no business coaching the game. This blows my mind for somebody who’s been in this business as long as he has.
You think he could spot and identify up-and-coming promising competent coaches. This hasn’t been the case.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:21 am to mikeytig
Are there any coaches still on the staff you think should go?
I believe he’s got a good staff.
I believe he’s got a good staff.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:25 am to dstone12
So he did like 2 of those. So I guess the sunshine pumpers will say Yay!
Nope. I’m done with him. Sorry.
Nope. I’m done with him. Sorry.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:26 am to Paul Allen
Are you serious ?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:29 am to RB10
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And that is the only niceish thing you’ll ever hear me say about Orgeron
Getting the team ready to play doesn’t correlate to eventually winning a Natty? Dang you’ve got a high standard. I’d still thank him for bringing a natty to LSU.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:29 am to dstone12
I’m so tired of
expensive
uncreative
hardheaded
old guys coaching football at LSU.
expensive
uncreative
hardheaded
old guys coaching football at LSU.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:30 am to dstone12
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Are there any coaches still on the staff you think should go?
I believe he’s got a good staff.
I really believe that Blake Baker will turn the defense around. He just doesn't have a whole lot to work with talent-wise.
Joe Sloan should be demoted back to QB coach at season's end, and BK needs to bring in an experienced OC from another Power 5 program.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:38 am to mikeytig
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linstead of hiring people who have no business coaching the game
We all piled on him for Matt House but after watching the defense this year I’m starting to think maybe Matt House wasn’t the problem. We simply do not have a lot of talent on defense.
We can get mad about Sloan but in the end he wanted to keep him and had to make him happy
I really am starting to think that BK’s coaching staff choices aren’t the issue.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:00 am to TN Tygah
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I really am starting to think that BK’s coaching staff choices aren’t the issue.
BK is the problem. He gets paid very handsomely to make the best staff hires and evaluate and secure the best talent. BK is the one constant.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:07 am to dstone12
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Are there any coaches still on the staff you think should go? I believe he’s got a good staff.
I’m going to assume this criticism was based on House being a disaster, going back to get Raymond and Baker after letting them walk, and jury still being out on Joe Sloan as an OC.
The rest are proven commodities to the extent a layman knows they’re good coaches, so not sold on him as some evaluation wizard.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:09 am to Paul Allen
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By far and away his most glaring weakness.
Didn’t he hire Mike Elko and Marcus Freeman?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:10 am to RB10
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He’s a knowledgeable guy, but he doesn’t know shite about shite when it comes to getting his team up and ready to play. They come out so flat in almost every game.
Teams are a reflection of their coach.
BK is dull. Colorless.
Say what you will about Ed O, his teams were willing to run thru a brick wall for him when he gave a shite. I don’t see anybody on this team willing to do that for BK. He doesn’t inspire.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:12 am to dstone12
Seems like he has issues with preparing the team mentally.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:14 am to Godfather1
If that's the case, then why did he completely quit after the nattie. He gave up and there is no disputing this. He deserved to be fired, period!!
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:19 am to adam32
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If that's the case, then why did he completely quit after the nattie.
Note that I said: “when he gave a shite”.
quote:
He gave up and there is no disputing this. He deserved to be fired, period!!
I’m not disputing any of that. O started believing his own press, started resting on his laurels, and got bogged down in chasing pussy.
But before all that happened, he had fire in his belly. His players would absolutely go to war for him.
Which goes back to my original point: teams are a reflection of their coach.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:19 pm to loogaroo
quote:
expensive
uncreative
hardheaded
old guys
Napier was the opposite of all these things...
How's that working out for the Gators.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:29 pm to Godfather1
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Say what you will about Ed O, his teams were willing to run thru a brick wall for him when he gave a shite. I don’t see anybody on this team willing to do that for BK. He doesn’t inspire.
And yet they overcame a 17 pt deficit on the road. This is not the hallmark of a team that quits or doesn’t play hard.
I think there’s a lack of elite talent. And in this portal/NIL world it’s hard to know if the lack of talent is all the fault of the HC. Best recruiter in the world can only do so much when money is involved.
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