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re: I really don't understand some of our fans. I need some answers.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 11:57 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 1/26/10 at 11:57 am to Draconian Sanctions
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At least you admit LSU is a bigger name than Arkansas
Nice another attempt at flaming instead of trying to actually be civil for once
You really are a douche man.
If you look at current trends, we will be a bigger name than LSU if both programs keep their current bearings.
Hey, and try to stop the chest thumping. You are not hiding your small penis syndrome from me bud. I see through it.
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Posted on 1/26/10 at 11:57 am to King
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Yall got in on the stature and name of LSU.
while LSU did back in due to some teams losing, this statement is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 11:58 am to just me
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Did you not notice that our QB was exceptionally green at the beginning of the 2008 season and at the beginning of the 2009 season?
I also noticed that they were equally green at the end of the 2008 season and at the end of the 2009 season.
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Do you not think that LSU would have had a much better record in 2008 and in 2009 if Ryan Perrilloux had been playing QB?
Yes I do.
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Do you not think that Les Miles made the right decision in dismissing Ryan Perrilloux?
Yes I do, although there really was no decision to make. Ryan gave Miles no choice but to let him go.
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What is the greatest difference between 2005-2007 and 2008-2009? Is it the coaching staff or the talent at significant positions?
It appears to be both. There has been a talent dropoff due to a lack of player development during that time. Also, the team plays sloppy and undisciplined.
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Do you not believe that LSU will improve at those positions in 2010 and 2011?
I am hoping that the new position coaches will help but my gut feeling is that it's too little too late.
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Why do you refuse to acknowledge the obvious?
I accepted the obvious following the 2007 Ar-kansas game.
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Have you not seen the talent LSU is bringing in this year and next year?
Hopefully they will find a way to develop and utilize that talent.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 11:59 am to TheDoc
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while LSU did back in due to some teams losing, this statement is ridiculous.
Other teams losing had a hand in it, but the ranking you had after losing to us and not dropping far in the polls was due to LSU's stature and not Les Miles coaching.
Get what im saying?
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:00 pm to just me
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Did you not notice that our QB was exceptionally green at the beginning of the 2008 season and at the beginning of the 2009 season?
Do you not think that LSU would have had a much better record in 2008 and in 2009 if Ryan Perrilloux had been playing QB?
Do you not think that Les Miles made the right decision in dismissing Ryan Perrilloux?
What is the greatest difference between 2005-2007 and 2008-2009? Is it the coaching staff or the talent at significant positions?
Do you not believe that LSU will improve at those positions in 2010 and 2011? Why do you refuse to acknowledge the obvious?
Have you not seen the talent LSU is bringing in this year and next year?
he was not "exceptionally green" this year, but nice try. He will get better though.
If our $4mill/year coach could practice basic clock management skills, we'd have finished 10-3.
Using RP as the default yard pass has gotten very old. It falls back on the coach and a lack of planning for contingencies......
The talent coming in is status quo to years past. Same raw material with the exception of RS. This is precisely the issue many fans are taking.
The primary issue with this team is a lack of a firm grasp of fundamentals. It boils down to the basics and mastering them.....this is the primary reason Saban excels.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:00 pm to King
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but the ranking you had after losing to us and not dropping far in the polls was due to LSU's stature
From No.1 to No.7 is very significant. We rose up again after beating a ranked Tennessee team, and the voters put us in on the strength of our win over VT and Georgia's lack of success in the SEC East.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:01 pm to King
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Other teams losing had a hand in it, but the ranking you had after losing to us and not dropping far in the polls was due to LSU's stature and not Les Miles coaching.
I can agree with this.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:04 pm to King
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Other teams losing had a hand in it, but the ranking you had after losing to us and not dropping far in the polls was due to LSU's stature and not Les Miles coaching.
LSU was ranked #1, and fell to #7
what did you expect them to drop to?
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:07 pm to just me
Miles made the right move releasing Ryan P, the irony in it is it might lead to his demise.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:07 pm to TiegerTim
quote:Progress. Anyone with two eyes saw progress.
did you see progress or regress in JJ from the beginnning to the end of '09?
quote:I appreciate the fact that you did not even attempt to refute the obvious fact that LSU would have been much better with RP. I'd say 2009 was RP's last year. Glad I could help you with that fact. However, I figured any knowledgeable LSU fan would know that. BTW - Did you see how well he did in 2009?
how many more years will we use the RP excuse?
quote:Every team goes through dips in talent. I saw marked improvement in the 2009 defense from the 2008 defense.
both.. and the head coach is responsible for both..
quote:That players get better as they mature, particularly at the QB position.
What's obvious???
quote:He's done a very good job the past three years, and LSU will become the beneficiary of Miles' hard work this year. However, we missed RP in 2008 and 2009.
so you're saying Miles didn't do a good job recruiting the last 5 years? is this talent based on recruiting rankings? wasn't the last 3 years recruiting classes ranked in the top 10 or so???
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:10 pm to TheDoc
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LSU was ranked #1, and fell to #7
what did you expect them to drop to?
Nevermind. 07 was about a wash year with everyone losing. Their really was no telling who the best teams were. LSU got the poll votes for being LSU. Les Miles had nothing to do with it, except the "undefeated in regulation" statement.
I am not trying to argue or flame you guys, except DS as he is a douche, but Les is what keeps you guys from being elite pretty much every year IMO.
LSU is like a corvette with a driver that has a slight mental retardation.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:13 pm to King
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but Les is what keeps you guys from being elite pretty much every year IMO.
sadly, I agree with you.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:16 pm to TheDoc
Maybe we can get the record keepers to put an * next to out 5 losses in 08 and 4 losses in 09, and say that they were due to inexperienced QB play. Keep making excuses, and looking for a "reason" if it makes you feel better. JJ started the last 3 games of 08, including a bowl game, and started 13 games this year, yet he didn't progress much. He's not a freshmen anymore, and he's not inexperienced anymore. What's your excues going to be next year?
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:18 pm to just me
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Did you not notice that our QB was exceptionally green at the beginning of the 2008 season and at the beginning of the 2009 season?
Yes. It's college football. Players play for a while, then they move on and you have to replace them. Usually, the replacements aren't very experienced. If you are a good program, you find a way to replace players and still have good seasons. By the way, there was more starting QB experience on the roster going into 2009 than there was going into either 2007 or 2005.
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Do you not think that LSU would have had a much better record in 2008 and in 2009 if Ryan Perrilloux had been playing QB?
No, it wouldn't have made much difference, if any, in 2008. Defense was the biggest problem that year.
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Do you not think that Les Miles made the right decision in dismissing Ryan Perrilloux?
Without knowing the details, I can only assume so, so I do.
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What is the greatest difference between 2005-2007 and 2008-2009?
We had good defensive coaching in 2005-2007, shitty defensive coaching in 2008. We had good offensive coaching in 2005-2007, shitty offensive coaching in 2009. We had more great players in 2005-2007 than we did in 2008 and 2009.
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Is it the coaching staff or the talent at significant positions?
Both, which means it's the coaching staff, since they are responsible for the talent at all positions.
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Do you not believe that LSU will improve at those positions in 2010 and 2011?
Nope. We will not improve in 2010 or 2011. Individual players might at some positions, but as a team, we will not improve.
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Why do you refuse to acknowledge the obvious?
I do acknowledge the obvious. The obvious is that LSU football is but a shell of what it was when Les Miles took over. The talent is down, the coaching sucks and the performance is reflecting that.
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Have you not seen the talent LSU is bringing in this year and next year?
Same as always. Highly rated, underdeveloped, underutilized and essentially wasted.
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I really don't understand some of our fans.
I'd say the fans are the least important thing you don't understand.
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I need some answers.
Or perhaps a pair of eyes.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:20 pm to King
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From an outside perspective, you still have Les Miles.
Just sa
Yeah, we do.
51 wins, 2 West titles, 2 BCS bowls wins, 3 top 5 finishes and 4 finishes in the top 17, and a NC.
We have that too and I'll take it over anything you boys from Arkansas have put up in the past 5 yrs.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:20 pm to ShoNuff
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JJ started the last 3 games of 08
incorrect, but it doesnt matter.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:22 pm to King
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Nice another attempt at flaming instead of trying to actually be civil for once
Go back to the SEC Rant. Your kind isn't welcome here.
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You really are a douche man.
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If you look at current trends, we will be a bigger name than LSU if both programs keep their current bearings.
Current trends? Arkansas hasn't won more games in a season than LSU since 2002. What current trend are you talking about?
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Hey, and try to stop the chest thumping. You are not hiding your small penis syndrome from me bud. I see through it.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:23 pm to just me
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So the staff has no idea how to coach players to be better?
Now you're starting to catch on.
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You really believe that?
Given what we've seen, it's hard to believe anything else.
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And it's not that a player is green but with the talent to improve?
It's that the player is just as bad going into his junior year as he was going into his freshman year. And it's not just one player. It's the whole damned team.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:23 pm to just me
quote:Yes.
Did you not notice that our QB was exceptionally green at the beginning of the 2008 season and at the beginning of the 2009 season?
quote:Yes, but it's irrelevant cause he's not here.
Do you not think that LSU would have had a much better record in 2008 and in 2009 if Ryan Perrilloux had been playing QB?
quote:I thought it was a bad decision then, and a bad decision now. He could have demoted him to 2nd string, kept him out until he shaped up, and put other kinds of pressure on him wihtout kicking him off. Les felt like he had carte blanche' and political capital after the NC win, and he made 2 BAD MISTAKES with it, Maleveto and RP.
Do you not think that Les Miles made the right decision in dismissing Ryan Perrilloux?
quote:The coaching staff is not motivated, nor do they have fire and desire and they're too soft. The player talent is the same or better.
What is the greatest difference between 2005-2007 and 2008-2009? Is it the coaching staff or the talent at significant positions?
quote:They prob will improve at a few positions, by virtue of experience, not coaching.
Do you not believe that LSU will improve at those positions in 2010 and 2011? Why do you refuse to acknowledge the obvious?
quote:We have brought in top 5 talent for about 7 years straight now, save for 2004. The problem is not talent, it's coaching.
Have you not seen the talent LSU is bringing in this year and next year?
Posted on 1/26/10 at 12:24 pm to am4titansandlsu
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Miles made the right move releasing Ryan P, the irony in it is it might lead to his demise.
You know, I agree he did but folks it has been two years since RP has been here and the offense just sucks, and is getting worse?
Did anyone expect RP to be here for 3-4 years? I certainly didn't. There were recruiting and developmental failures WAY beyond RP's release that have led us to the point we are today.
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