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Another Rant narrative blown up by real life 
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:08 am to boxcar willie
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I guess 2019 will prove the talent vs scheme argument. If talent doesn't matter (how idiotic a thought that is) then the offense wont be any better next season. If the offense is better, then talent does matter.
I really have trouble taking people seriously when they claim LSU is lacking talent. It's just such a weak argument. I mean, even if they were right, that lack of talent would still fall on the coaches recruiting efforts in regards to evals and development.
I personally think we have scheme issues. I don't think E's the answer, and I know I'm far from alone. Hopefully he'll be better with the easier schedule next season. He needs to watch the Clemson/bama game on repeat.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:13 am to OppositeMan
It’s tRant. It’s always something.
What’s it going to be in 2019?
“We have new faces on the offensive line and Brossette is gone so it’s going to take us a while to get things going. 2020 is our year bc Brennan will be familiar with the offense.”
*2020 comes*
“Well Brennan doesn’t have full season of experience you can’t expect him to pick it up just like that. Also Ensminger has only installed about 60% of the offense.”
What’s it going to be in 2019?
“We have new faces on the offensive line and Brossette is gone so it’s going to take us a while to get things going. 2020 is our year bc Brennan will be familiar with the offense.”
*2020 comes*
“Well Brennan doesn’t have full season of experience you can’t expect him to pick it up just like that. Also Ensminger has only installed about 60% of the offense.”
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:13 am to RaginRed
It's ALL on the OL and to a lesser extent, young WR's that don't have a full grasp of the offense yet. Maybe the Ensminger haters can explain Dan Enos? When he arrived at Arkansas in 2015 they were #2 in offense in the SEC. They also had a 1st or 2nd team ALL-SEC RB, WR, G, T and TE and a solid veteran QB. In 2017 they had ONE 2nd team ALL-SEC lineman, finish #94 in the nation in total offense and was not retained by the new HC. In 2018 he coordinated the most prolific offense in Alabama's history with a7 1st or 2nd team All-SEC players on offense. Go figure. Former Miami Dolphins OC, Gary Steven said it best back in the 90's when the Dolphins had Dan Marino and not much else - "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite".
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:13 am to RaginRed
He didn’t score vs Bama. Every complaint our dumb fans have centers around how we do against Bama. We could beat everyone by 100 but get shutout by Bama and everyone thinks we suck.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:15 am to OppositeMan
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I really have trouble taking people seriously when they claim LSU is lacking talent. It's just such a weak argument. I mean, even if they were right, that lack of talent would still fall on the coaches recruiting efforts in regards to evals and development.
I personally think we have scheme issues. I don't think E's the answer, and I know I'm far from alone. Hopefully he'll be better with the easier schedule next season. He needs to watch the Clemson/bama game on repeat
If 50 people believe something that's incorrect. It's still incorrect. A lot of people that argue from a purely scheme standpoint are actually saying that if LSU had better players at certain positions that they still wouldn't be any better. You would have a hard time finding a coach that would turn down better players with a shrug and say that I'll stick to this scheme that doesn't require better players. Players with experience play better as they gain that experience.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:16 am to RaginRed
There's a large group of madden gurus who think they van usr cheat codes in real football. They think any flash in the pan oc is thr greatest evet. So they complain whrn in reality they couldn't carry Ensmingers jock.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:17 am to Clark W Griswold
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He didn’t score vs Bama. Every complaint our dumb fans have centers around how we do against Bama. We could beat everyone by 100 but get shutout by Bama and everyone thinks we suck.
This. They also idolize Canada for scoring 10 whole points while losing to Bama.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:25 am to The First Cut
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This. They also idolize Canada for scoring 10 whole points while losing to Bama
Oh Canada is their hero. He stood up to zero and for some reason that they can't comprehend zero fired him. It was because zero is so insecure.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:28 am to The First Cut
steve e offense had no creativity, it was predictictable he needs to be creative. could you imagine the being ran at least have as good with the way the saints are ran. the different screens, playaction, zonereads, zone running, counter runs, plays for the tightends, I'm just saying multiple spread offense, being creative. we need a oc that knows how to be just that and also aggressive.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:30 am to bencoleman
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If 50 people believe something that's incorrect. It's still incorrect. A lot of people that argue from a purely scheme standpoint are actually saying that if LSU had better players at certain positions that they still wouldn't be any better. You would have a hard time finding a coach that would turn down better players with a shrug and say that I'll stick to this scheme that doesn't require better players. Players with experience play better as they gain that experience.
Right...agree...but I did say that a would-be lack of talent still falls on the coaches.
If we don't win, it's the coaches fault, for whatever reason.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:33 am to bencoleman
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A lot of people that argue from a purely scheme standpoint are actually saying that if LSU had better players at certain positions that they still wouldn't be any better.
I haven't seen many making such an absolute statement but any that do are fools. We didn't just perform poorly against teams more talented than us. We performed terribly against the likes of Southeastern, LA Tech, and Arkansas who we exceed in talent more than any team in the country exceeds our own.
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Players with experience play better as they gain that experience.
This is what we all need to keep in mind. Steve is obviously going to be here next year so we should all just sit back and wait. He has ZERO excuses next year so I would expect our O to be ranked within the top 30 at worst. He will have every chance to prove the doubters wrong.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 8:34 am
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:34 am to burasjr123
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the way the saints are ran
Hmmmm, so Ensminger should be able to install an offense with a QB that arrived the summer before the season that compares with a coach and generational QB that have been together for a decade.
Seems legit.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:37 am to roger79
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Ensminger this season... by roger79
What part of 0 points against Alabama at home in both of his games against them as coordinator do you not understand?
Many are very happy with that. The excuse nobody beats Bama so who cares.
They need to look hard and see how Auburn, Georgia, and Clemson were able to put up points. LSU administration is content with 0 points vs Bama.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:37 am to RaginRed
Sad that you’re ok with getting shutout against Bama at home... again.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:39 am to ATLTiger
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WR screens and such.
Big issue we had here is that our other WRs don't block. If had a Demarcus Lodge type who gives his all on every play, we'd be better at this.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:40 am to bayou85
Whose fault is that?
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:43 am to Mr. Wayne
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I haven't seen many making such an absolute statement but any that do are fools
You must've missed the thread from yesterday or the day before. Several posters were saying that better players weren't going to help this offense. That's what they've been reduced to arguing because the just scheme argument eventually backs you into this corner.
The offensive woes were a combination of things not one single thing.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:45 am to SabiDojo
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:52 am to The First Cut
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This. They also idolize Canada for scoring 10 whole points while losing to Bama.
Yes, Canada lost to Bama. He gave LSU a fighting chance. Scoring 10 certainly helps more to win a game than 0 points. Canada had Saban on his heels the entire game and I believe even outgained Bama. Canada showed some creativity and dialed up some plays Saban hasn't seen before. Clemson did the same thing
E had no plan B or C
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