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re: I keep hearing LSU is playing more freshmen than anyone in country?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:04 pm to slackster
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:04 pm to slackster
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UGA and Miami played 17 freshmen in their season opener, just like LSU.
I don't know why our fans want to shite all over the freshman playing stat...well with you I know its because you want to hate on O.
The true indicator should be how much the freshman are playing and at what positions. Starting 3 freshmen on the line isn't the same as playing some late in a blowout
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:18 pm to Topwater Trout
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Starting 3 freshmen on the line isn't the same as playing some late in a blowout
How many games have we started 3 freshman on the line?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:20 pm to NAsh-vegas Tigah
Alabama plays more third string players than any anyone in the country.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:34 pm to NAsh-vegas Tigah
Probably true.
Now, this is a situation we would not want LSU to have every year because that would mean that the freshmen are performing better than the upper classmen and that doesn't bode well for a championship type club.
So, yeah, I wish Orgeron would shut the fuk up about how many freshmen LSU are playing and they should come to LSU because of this fact. Bottom line, this should be an anomaly and not a regular thing at LSU.
Now, this is a situation we would not want LSU to have every year because that would mean that the freshmen are performing better than the upper classmen and that doesn't bode well for a championship type club.
So, yeah, I wish Orgeron would shut the fuk up about how many freshmen LSU are playing and they should come to LSU because of this fact. Bottom line, this should be an anomaly and not a regular thing at LSU.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:54 pm to tenderfoot tigah
quote:Have you kept up with the modern game? If a player is any good he can go pro after his second year playing with a redshirt so why keep them back. Very unlikely that a redshirt will get much playing time as a senior anyway if the recruiting has been good and there are young hot shots coming in every year.
Sounds like wasted red shirts.
Only reason for a modern redshirt is if the player is very raw talent, physically or mentally and needs the time to develop. They come in from high school now, for the most part, ready to go and well coached in fundamentals. Only other reason might be that a player needs extra help with academics and they give him a year to get settled in at that end.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:07 pm to goodgrin
Correct. If we are recruiting good players year after year, then our depth chart should NOT be littered with Freshmen.
This year should be an anomaly.
Having said that, the Freshman that we're playing all look to have potential. If they progress, develop and improve like they should, then this 2018 recruiting class is huge.
Back-to-back deep recruiting classes is what we need to put ourselves back into contention.
This year should be an anomaly.
Having said that, the Freshman that we're playing all look to have potential. If they progress, develop and improve like they should, then this 2018 recruiting class is huge.
Back-to-back deep recruiting classes is what we need to put ourselves back into contention.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:11 pm to Topwater Trout
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The true indicator should be how much the freshman are playing and at what positions
Here is some info from the LSU website:
https://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=211151291
this is about true freshmen and doesn't take into account the redshirt freshmen.
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True Freshmen Continue to Play Big Roles at LSU
* So far this season, 20 true freshmen have played for the Tigers, which is tied for the most in the nation after seven weeks of the season.
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* With Charles' start against BYU, he became the first true freshman to start a season opener on the offensive line since at least World War II.
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* LSU's eight true freshmen starters in 2017 are the most since at least 2005
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* The four true freshmen (Charles, Chaisson, Taylor and Delpit) who started the season opener matched the total number between 2000-16.
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* The four true freshmen starters were the most in the nation to start the 2017 season
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* Against BYU, 17 true freshmen saw action for the most by an LSU team in a season opener since at least 1995.
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* The following is a list of true freshmen who have played this season: QB Myles Brennan, TE/F Tory Carter, LB K’Lavon Chaisson, RG Saahdiq Charles, OG Austin Deculus, FS Grant Delpit, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, DE Neil Farrell Jr., S Todd Harris Jr., OG Ed Ingram, WR Justin Jefferson, CB Jontre Kirklin, WR Racey McMath, WR Mannie Netherly, LB Jacob Phillips, LB Patrick Queen, WR JaCoby Stevens, LB Tyler Taylor, DE Justin Thomas, CB Kary Vincent Jr.
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Twenty-One First-Time Starters So Far in 2017
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Most True Freshmen Starters by Year Since 2005
2017
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:14 pm to goodgrin
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So, yeah, I wish Orgeron would shut the fuk up about how many freshmen LSU are playing and they should come to LSU because of this fact
That's a pretty stupid thing to think, much less type out on a message board.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:24 pm to Tiger Ree
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Here is some info from the LSU website:
LINK
this is about true freshmen and doesn't take into account the redshirt freshmen.
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True Freshmen Continue to Play Big Roles at LSU
* So far this season, 20 true freshmen have played for the Tigers, which is tied for the most in the nation after seven weeks of the season.
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* With Charles' start against BYU, he became the first true freshman to start a season opener on the offensive line since at least World War II.
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* LSU's eight true freshmen starters in 2017 are the most since at least 2005
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* The four true freshmen (Charles, Chaisson, Taylor and Delpit) who started the season opener matched the total number between 2000-16.
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* The four true freshmen starters were the most in the nation to start the 2017 season
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* Against BYU, 17 true freshmen saw action for the most by an LSU team in a season opener since at least 1995.
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* The following is a list of true freshmen who have played this season: QB Myles Brennan, TE/F Tory Carter, LB K’Lavon Chaisson, RG Saahdiq Charles, OG Austin Deculus, FS Grant Delpit, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, DE Neil Farrell Jr., S Todd Harris Jr., OG Ed Ingram, WR Justin Jefferson, CB Jontre Kirklin, WR Racey McMath, WR Mannie Netherly, LB Jacob Phillips, LB Patrick Queen, WR JaCoby Stevens, LB Tyler Taylor, DE Justin Thomas, CB Kary Vincent Jr.
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Twenty-One First-Time Starters So Far in 2017
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Most True Freshmen Starters by Year Since 2005
2017
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And by my count 12-13 RSF have played as well. Meaning 32-33 players are playing this season that have never played a down of CFB.
In all it's a staggering number no matter how you slice it.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:46 pm to cra_cra
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And by my count 12-13 RSF have played as well. Meaning 32-33 players are playing this season that have never played a down of CFB.
In all it's a staggering number no matter how you slice it.
I can't even figure out what is happening in this thread. Are idiots arguing against the fact of the freshmen/RS freshmen playing. Are they trying to belittle LSU because of it.
Here is another tidbit from the article: (This is for players who have started for the first time this season only and does not include players who spell the starters).
* Twenty-one Tigers have earned starts for the first time so far this season:
DE Ed Alexander, Sophomore
RB Nick Brossette, Junior
OG Garrett Brumfield, Junior
TE/F Tory Carter, True freshman
RG Saahdiq Charles, True freshman
LB K'Lavon Chaisson, True freshman
WR Drake Davis, Sophomore
S Grant Delpit, True freshman
WR Derrick Dillon, Sophomore
OL Ed Ingram, True freshman
DE Rashard Lawrence, Sophomore
DE Glen Logan, RS Freshman
OL Adrian Magee, Sophomore
S Eric Monroe, RS Freshman
TE Jamal Pettigrew, RS Freshman
WR JaCoby Stevens, True freshman
WR Stephen Sullivan, Sophomore
LB Tyler Taylor, True freshman
Nickel Kary Vincent Jr., True freshman
CB Andraez Williams, RS Freshman
LB Devin White, Sophomore
8 True Freshmen
4 RS Freshmen
7 Sophomores
2 Juniors
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:49 pm to UpToPar
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How many games have we started 3 freshman on the line?
I am guessing none. Why are you and slackster shitting all over the amount of true freshmen playing?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:51 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Why can’t we be competitive with Bama?
Because Saban is the GOTDAMN DEBIL
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:51 pm to Tiger Ree
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Tiger Ree
you have facts to show people how dumb they are....I will let you handle the dumbasses
good work 
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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I am guessing none.
I also am not sure whether it happened or not, but this is where everyone is getting the idea of it happening from;
SEC Country - LSU likely to start three freshmen on offensive line against Auburn
NOLA.com - LSU could start 3 true freshmen offensive linemen against No. 10 Auburn
And countless other articles on websites about it.
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Why are you and slackster shitting all over the amount of true freshmen playing?
It's what they do. They are miserable people and have found an outlet that allows them to try to convince others to also be miserable human beings.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:03 pm to slackster
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UGA and Miami played 17 freshmen in their season opener, just like LSU.
Those two teams are undefeated. LSU is, well, not
Whos is your favorite team? It cant be LSU, you bash the tigers more than any poster ive seen and any opposing fan ive met.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:04 pm to Tiger Ree
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but this is where everyone is getting the idea of it happening from
yep I remember seeing that or hearing it.
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It's what they do.
I would think any tiger fan would look at this as being very promising for the next few years...they just hate o so much they don't want to see him have any success
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:30 pm to Mobiletiger
Guys not leaving for the NFL is not realistic. Programs like LSU recruit players with the mindset that they will be here for three years. The league minimum for rookies is getting to the point where it makes financial sense to leave early no matter what round you will be drafted in. The days of only 1st and 2nd round drafts picks leaving early are over.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:37 pm to NAsh-vegas Tigah
We're a very young team. Not only considering how many freshmen we play, but also considering how many new players had to step up after the amount of players we lost to the NFL. I didn't want to acknowledge it earlier in the season, but it's true. The talent argument is garbage though. We're very talented, as you can see on the field now. But we're also very young.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:46 pm to MOT
"Mathieu played in the first series of his first game, didn’t redshirt..".....
Ah shite--I hope they don't all do what he did??.............
Ah shite--I hope they don't all do what he did??.............
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:49 pm to gettin there
I remember he made some plays in that UNC game too. He was just a little guy out there tearing shite up. I've never seen anything like it.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 3:51 pm
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