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re: I don't like Alleva either

Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:26 am to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:26 am to
Alleva handles everything wrong.

That’s the big problem.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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40033 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:26 am to
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If later, it comes out to be true that WW committed NCAA violations, the NCAA will be softer on LSU since they suspended him.

Lol

You actually believe this too. Cute
Posted by Jmwtigre
Tyler, TX
Member since Oct 2015
1232 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:28 am to

Because he a administrative sicafant elite who has never acted; he has only reacted after carefully considering his political position!
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
31378 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:28 am to
people still think turning yourself in to the ncaa equals a lighter sentence?

lol some of yall have been living on the moon the last 30 years.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86593 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:28 am to
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As stupid as the NCAA is, LSU has to do what they say.


You can very easily tell the NCAA you will be transparent and cooperate with any investigation but that you want to have a man to man meeting with your coach without outside parties and then go from there. That’s the professional and respectful thing to do. Not schedule that meeting then cancel it at the last minute so you can invite the world to what should be an initial conversation between employer and employee. You’re still free to request subsequent meetings.
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1315 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:29 am to
Aleva Should have met with Wade one on one to asses the situatiion before making a decision to bring in attorneys and NCAA. My understanding the first meeting was scheduled with that in mind and then Aleva rescheduled and decided to bring in the posse. If this true, he threw Wade under the bus before having all the facts. In all likelihood , even if Wade is innocent of this he will never want to work for this man- nor would any Head Basketball coach worth his salt. Aleva has lost the LSU fans and he needs to go !!
Posted by KC_LSUFAN
Kansas City
Member since Jun 2017
617 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:29 am to
Ok let's play it by your rules....
But listen to mine

What did LSU HAVE TO LOSE by letting Wade Still Coach...

The big thing here, is WADE Said YES to the initial meeting with JUST LSU.... They (admin) said NO, we want NCAA on the phone

Now here's my point
What did LSU have to LOSE
They have been in the BASEMENT for YEARSSSSSSS
BASEMENT... YOu know, downstairs, in a cardboard box, with DUST ON IT and NOBODY GAVE A SHITE about Basketball Since Shaq, and when they made their run with Tyrus (how long ago was that, OH WAIT... 12yrs ago)

We LEGITIMATELY had a TRUE SHOT at winning and winning deeper than the loss to MSU...
Had we allowed Coach Wade to coach, how much MORE SEVERE COULD ANY PENALTY BE from the NCAA on Basketball????
At this point, we'd be playing with House Money....

It could be another 12yrs (if Wade is fired) before LSU Basketball matters.... If Wade returns (which i now believe will happen) then LSU stands TALL and MATTERS FOR YEARS TO COME

WE HAD NOTHING TO LOSE be allowing WADE TO COACH!!!!

A strong arse offer could mean MANY THINGS....
But don't think (for one) that these kids aren't getting money or whatever (at EVERY COLLEGE) Zion Williams is going to fall as well

All i'm saying is EVEN IF THE NCAA Came down on LSU BBALL
What would it have mattered?

How many of you TRULY HAVE FOLLOWED LSU BASKETBALL before WADE's ARRIVAL.... it's been a long time



Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4800 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:30 am to
Alleva has been host of his share of shite-shows the past few years, but he got this one right.

Nope, the fact we are 38 days into basketball ambiguity is ALL on Alleva. You either fire the guy and move on or determine you don’t have the evidence and keep him. Alleva could have met and received the clarity he wanted prior to suspending WADE.

Alleva is in a catch 22. He hired the guy. So, if his third hire is a failure due to cheating, well, that’s three poor hires/judgements.

Alleva has either rushed to judgement on Wade w/o the evidence to fire him or He hired a cheater and 3rd basketball coach that has failed.

Sounds like an incompetent Athletic Director to me.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:31 am to
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You lied your arse off in your thread title.

You people are so damn childish. I don't like Alleva. I've voiced that plenty times on here. I'm also an honest person. I know when it's time to take off the purple and gold glasses and see things for what they are.

If this happened to another school, you would be whining for them to suspend the coach.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:32 am to
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But what in the world makes yall think he handled this situation the wrong way?

Some of yall are retarded. No other possible explanation.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:33 am to
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If this happened to another school, you would be whining for them to suspend the coach.



Suspend him for what? How many here were saying suspend Sean Miller?
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11243 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:33 am to
He broke the first rule of regulatory compliance. Talk to your own damn employee and scope the extent of a potential issue. Throwing open the doors to the NCAA was a misguided, naive attempt to virtue signal to the NCAA.

Will Wade is LSUs employee to deal with, not the NCAAs. If he broke rules or acknowledges he broke rules, fire his arse and deal with the consequences, but to just bring in the NCAA in an unfiltered setting is just plain stupid.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84375 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:34 am to
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Alleva had no choice but to suspend him (regardless of The Meeting). If later, it comes out to be true that WW committed NCAA violations, the NCAA will be softer on LSU since they suspended him.
I can't believe people don't understand this. In fact, Wade wants to be suspended, but cannot act that way.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131227 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:34 am to
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LSU has to comply with the NCAA. It's a requirement
You are unaware of the current antitrust case?
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Why does that matter?
It mattered for a number of reasons. Not the least of which was the stated intention to allow potentially adversarial parties to conference-in from remote unmonitored locations to a legal discussion regarding subjects of potential future Federal Court testimony.

It is simply shocking that anyone at this stage could be so seriously dense as to ask "Why does that matter?"
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40033 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:34 am to
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If this happened to another school, you would be whining for them to suspend the coach.

To the extent it provides a competitive advantage to LSU, maybe. I mean, I celebrated Ole Miss getting slapped around because we play them every year and also frick ole miss. Not because I think it’s right. I in no way find myself clamoring for Duke to suspend coach k or Auburn to suspend Pearl.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23926 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:36 am to
How many other schools, coaches, or players were implicated in the supposed scandal? Now how many of those other schools ordered their coaches to come to a meeting right before postseason play started to answer questions in front of people from the NCAA? LSU should have done like every other school and wait until after the season to deal with it, not torpedo their program's best season in 20 years right as the conference tournament was about to start.

If its discovered Wade cheated, he's fired. The NCAA drops sanctions on the basketball program. Players involved get declared ineligible. NCAA vacates all of LSU's wins from the season. Exact same penalties would have happened whether LSU handled it how they did or let Wade handle the court thing first before meeting with F King, Alleva and the NCAA.

If Wade ends up being cleared of any wrongdoing, now the administration completely ruined all the hard work that team did all year for absolutely no reason. And the incompetence of Alleva and Alexander will be used against LSU on the recruiting trail until both of them are gone.

Auburn is up to their neck in the college basketball corruption investigation, but they decided to let the investigation play out and let Bruce Pearl coach and it paid off. Win the SEC tourney. Get to the Final 4.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23777 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:36 am to
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I don't like Alleva. I've voiced that plenty times on here.


Then STFU and hate him like everybody else.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5823 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:37 am to
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Why does that matter? LSU has to comply with the NCAA. It's a requirement. As stupid as the NCAA is, LSU has to do what they say. Alleva expressed confidence in WW to have NCAA join the meeting. WW turned it down. Which is a terrible look on WILL WADE.



It's water under the bridge at this point, but here's an idea that could have eliminated all this uncertainty.
King and Aleva could have had their meeting with Wade privately and unannounced to the public.
Publicly they could have called another meeting with the NCAA involved.
Wade could have turned down the latter meeting due to advice from his lawyer, and King and Aleva would have already had the information they needed to retain or let Wade go.
Much better scenario than this shite show they had going on for the past month.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:37 am to
I think wade should have talked with JA and maybe even FK. But why bring in the damn NCAA when there isn’t even an investigation?

I’d bet wade had talked to JA back in October too.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:37 am to
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quote:

If later, it comes out to be true that WW committed NCAA violations, the NCAA will be softer on LSU since they suspended him.

I can't believe people don't understand this.


Ask Missouri and Ole Miss how that works in reality...
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