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re: How will Nuss pro debut go in the Chiefs v Rams game today?

Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:01 pm to
What will you be happy with this year?
Its Lane's 1st year and I don't want to expect too much.... but then everyone talks about a $40 million roster.

Those last 4 games are going to be brutal. Are you expecting playoffs?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21470 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:03 pm to
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the 2007 Flynn season is one of the best seasons lsu has had for a qb.


Some addt'l context re 2007:
- We had new OL and WR coaches and a new OC.
- Flynn was a first year starter
- Our OL was truly makeshift (Carnell at RT and Hitt at RG)
- LaFell had one of the worst cases of the drops in LSU history and Early missed several games.
- We played a veritable who's who of DCs (Foster, Boom, Saban, Strong, Heacock/Fickell) w/ Flynn at QB.
- Never scored less than than 27 pts w/ Flynn starting (neither Tebow nor Burrow can match that).
- The '07 O was the gold standard for us until '19.

Flynn won't go down statistically as an all-time great but his '07 season was quite impressive when the full picture is shown.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:08 pm to
Bust is arse
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21470 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:11 pm to
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His junior year was trash in sec play. He ate off rent a wins. 700 yards and 8 tds came off 2 games. Jordan Jefferson in 2009 has a better qb rating in sec play than Nuss in 2024. Let that sink in.


In '09, JJ was coached to throw to open receivers to avoid the int fest of '08. Most QBs throw receivers open. Completely different set of demands than Nuss in '24. Let that float around.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73016 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:12 pm to
My basic standards are always the same. Play hard, play smart, coaches put the players in position to win. I’m excited for Lane because he’s our first Xs and Os HC since Saban and he’s the best on his side of the ball. I like Baker, I think BK got in his way as well, we can go into that a bit if you want. My concern is always Oline and Dline, those seem to be hardest to predict IMO. As far as record, it depends, if we play well and the other team makes one more play a time or two I can live with it. I can’t live with patterns of failure that lead to losses.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73016 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:13 pm to
If you want I can go look up more, it was just an example. The Harold Perkins hate is another example of scapegoating because the team didn’t do well. Go look at where he ranks among alltime sacks and TFLs at LSU, you’ll be shocked at some of the guys he’s ahead of but The Rant hates him because BK failed.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48303 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:15 pm to
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Most QBs throw receivers open.


Most college qbs do NOT do this. The ones that do this, end up playing on Sundays.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48303 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:21 pm to
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Go look at where he ranks among alltime sacks and TFLs at LSU, you’ll be shocked at some of the guys he’s ahead of but The Rant hates him because BK failed.


He does get undeserved hate. I still think he could've been an all American SS.
Posted by Desert Storm 1991
Member since Aug 2014
134 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:22 pm to
Nuss was just not a good quarterback. He stayed at LSU because he got paid. Jefferson was ten times better than Nuss.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38488 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:24 pm to
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If you want I can go look up more, it was just an example.



I still don’t even know what you are arguing.

You just threw a red herring in from a different era who no one considers an all time great season individually to explain why Nuss wasn’t mediocre?


This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48303 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:27 pm to
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Jefferson was ten times better than Nuss.


Brother ..... never go full retard.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73016 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:27 pm to
Well the first idea we had for him was the correct one. You play him there and let him grow into a better player. What we did was move him inside then we had him splitting time inside and out then had him at the Star finally. This idea that he was too small to play OLB or rush the QB consistently is crazy. Xavier Atkins, one of our own guys who went to Auburn, is 6-1, 210lbs, he had 9.5 sacks and 17.5TFLs for Auburn last year. We went through a bad DC then Baker was handcuffed year 1 so there were a lot of bad decisions made with Perk. Jessie Tuggle loves him and he’s pushing for a starting spot in Atlanta already at ILB in their 3-4.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73016 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:30 pm to
Because of the way they’re viewed. Etling is viewed favorably now but he wasn’t when he was here. I’m not trying to downgrade Flynn, just showing that our fans tend to not see things straight, especially in the moment, because of circumstance.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48303 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:31 pm to
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Jessie Tuggle loves him and he’s pushing for a starting spot in Atlanta already at ILB in their 3-4.
I hope he gets a huge 2nd contract.
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What we did was move him inside then we had him splitting time inside and out then had him at the Star finally. 


I thought I read somewhere that the idea behind this was to get him on the field for more plays. I could be wrong or misremembering.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73016 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:33 pm to
It may have been, I know Mascona floated this idea that Perk was behind it but both Kelly and Perkins said there was never any conversation like that.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73016 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:35 pm to
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I hope he gets a huge 2nd contract.


The guy ahead of him was a backup for the Texans last season so if he earns it, he’ll get a shot.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38488 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:38 pm to
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Because of the way they’re viewed.



I mean one guy’s team went 12-2 with the two losses being in OT and won the national championship. The other went 8-4 and played in the Texas bowl



So yeah I get why the fanbase has a soft spot for Flynn

No one calls that a great lsu qb season.



There are still people on the nuss bus who use his yards to say it was one of the best seasons for a LSU QB

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73016 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:40 pm to
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No one calls that a great lsu qb season.


Next time you see a thread ranking LSU QBs alltime pay attention to how high he’s rated in comparison to guys who were far more productive and efficient.

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There are still people on the nuss bus who use his yards to say it was one of the best seasons for a LSU QB



Agree, I’ve seen this argument but usually in the context of 1st season starting because it came about during 2024 comparing him to JD5s first year. I don’t think it’s an alltime great season. Burrow, JD5, Jamarcus, Davey, Hodson, Mett. I think those are your best single seasons at LSU. Nuss 1st year is in the next tier, JD5 S1, Mett S1, Herb’s best year, Flynn, Jmarcus S1. That group of seasons.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Desert Storm 1991
Member since Aug 2014
134 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:42 pm to
He beat Alabama.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21470 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:47 pm to
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Most college qbs do NOT do this.


That's how they're coached (including Nuss). That's not how JJ was coached. Not the same.

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