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How will LSU concessions ever get any better?

Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:05 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:05 am
The contract with Aramark runs through July 2027 (thanks Aleva and Alexander).

Aramark provides all materials and labor and gives at minimum 45% of GROSS revenue back to LSU.

That goes to show you how much they cut back on labor and push up prices in order for the contract to be profitable.

Crap deal for the fans, but a great deal for LSU. All the university has to do is audit Aramark to make sure the receipts numbers are correct.

Oh yeah, LSU and Aramark can agree in 2027 to extend the deal an additional 10 years....
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31470 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:07 am to
After tailgating in the parking lot of Tiger Stadium, what foods are you expecting to find inside?
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
3431 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:10 am to
Can we send Aramark to the Pac 12?
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31652 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:11 am to
Didn’t you already answer the question? Woodward is just going to blame alleva and wait until the contract expires.

After that he’ll fix it, but I’m sure it would cost lsu more to terminate the contract.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137768 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:15 am to
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Didn’t you already answer the question?


I did not answer my question. Why would Woodward ever get out of that sweetheart deal?

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After that he’ll fix it

That is my question. As it pertains to LSU, how could they get a better money deal. LSU gets money for being LSU.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31652 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:17 am to
The answer is that LSU’s concessions will get better after the contract expires, but Woodward isn’t going to lose money in the short run for better hot dogs.

Going to safely assume he’s aware people hate the Aramark situation but he’s not touching the issue until 2027.

So there’s your answer
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42785 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:17 am to
quote:

After tailgating in the parking lot of Tiger Stadium, what foods are you expecting to find inside?




I would like to be able to get a Coke and Tigerdog at half. Multiple times over the past seasons they have been out of one or both prior half.

Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6303 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:20 am to
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Aramark provides all materials and labor and gives at minimum 45% of GROSS revenue back to LSU.
Damn, the prices this year are going to be insane.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17350 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:31 am to
Aramark is a dog shite company.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
15562 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:34 am to
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Going to safely assume he’s aware people hate the Aramark situation but he’s not touching the issue until 2027.


Why wait? Our baseball and WBB teams just won natties, football won the West in year 1 of a new coach… bite the bullet and make the improvement while things are going well.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
33916 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:36 am to
I gotta think that Woodward will improve it.

He listens to the fan base, he is a fan and he hasn't missed yet
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
15998 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:38 am to
This will never happen. But I think bottles of water should be sold at all LSU events at cost/breakeven. No more $4 "Tiger Water" bottles.

What's that? You're overheated and dehydrated? There's a crusty water fountain 2 sections over, sinks in the bathrooms, or a $4 small bottled water.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 11:40 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6237 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:40 am to
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Aramark provides all materials and labor and gives at minimum 45% of GROSS revenue back to LSU

What a joke. I know bean counters like Alleva and Alexander probably thought that was super cool from a numbers standpoint but I really don’t buy stadium food anymore and I’d imagine a ton of other people don’t either. LSU would make more money if they contracted someone at 30% who provides an excellent product instead of the dog food and shite service Aramark is throwing at us
quote:

Crap deal for the fans, but a great deal for LSU

Again, only a great deal for LSU if Aramark is selling as many concessions as a superior alternative would, and I can assure you they’re not. There’s also the lost goodwill from a degraded fan experience which counts for something. The whole thing is a clusterfrick and Woodward will definitely get rid of them when their contract expires
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
9744 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:45 am to
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After tailgating in the parking lot of Tiger Stadium, what foods are you expecting to find inside?

I assume the contract is for all sports, most of which don't have a significant tailgating scene. Regardless, It would add to the charm of campus if out of towners were able to come to BR and get some local cuisine while watching a game. You can get nachos anywhere. Let Billy's put up a boudin stand

Also with the rise of TV you have to do something to compete and get fans in seats. Well run concessions would only help
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 11:47 am
Posted by Lptigerfan
Jeff Davis Parish
Member since May 2015
715 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:51 am to
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how much they cut back on labor 


Aramark's labor cost is a bare minimum anyways. They do not pay for the people in the stands. These are groups that work the stands for a percentage of sales. How many people you can bring dictates the size of the stand you are assigned. Now, what usually happens is Organization B says we have 40 people and get assigned one of the largest stands. GameDay comes and only 20 show up. Aramark and concession managers are at the mercy of these groups.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13089 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:55 am to
Who in their right minds hands out 10 year contracts?

I'm suspicious of kickbacks when such contracts are given out for such long terms.



Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1335 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:57 am to
Definitively, here’s what will happen: 1)As a public entity, LSU is required to do a RFP (Request for proposal). Companies will submit bids, including their proposed terms. Last time there were 2, yes, 2 bids.
2) LSU will pick the bid that’s best for them.
3) A certain percentage of the population will bitch incessantly about the company that won the bid.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13308 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 11:58 am to
I might be totally alone on this opinion, but at stadiums I value speed and convenience over quality and variety. I’d rather have 5 options of average food that can be pumped out quickly than 20 different options and a long line
Posted by luvdoc
"Please Ignore Our Yelp Reviews"
Member since May 2005
1034 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 12:05 pm to
But LSU isn't required to request bids for a one size fits all, all inclusive, exclusive, all sports solution. That certainly limits the pool of bidders.

I would think there are countless alternative models that includes auctioning access to individual sections or even individual concession stands Within each stadium/ venue, or even for each event.

While such models would require full-time staff with some measure of talent to organize and oversee things, product will be far superior, and it would allow for more flexibility in an addressing issues of poor service/quality
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted by luvdoc
"Please Ignore Our Yelp Reviews"
Member since May 2005
1034 posts
Posted on 8/5/23 at 12:08 pm to
Problem with Aramark has not merely been a poor product.

There have been epic Aramark threads about selling last year's stale product, morons who can't do the math to make change and move like they are stuck in molasses, overcharges on fans credit cards, running out of product before halftime, etc.

We did not trade quality for efficiency with Aramark
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 12:15 pm
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