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re: How was Perkins utilized so well versus Arkansas in 2022?

Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:27 am to
Doing a lot of things really well that a lot of posters claim he can’t do and never really could in that video.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:28 am to
I know they’re different which is why I made the post. You can call it coach bashing if you like but the proof is irrefutable and the excuses you guys make are completely false
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:31 am to
I haven't made a single excuse. Perkins just isn't as good a player as everybody thinks. He doesn't have the eye discipline. He has very niche skills that don't lend him to be an every down player. I wanted to believe he was a superstar but I was wrong.
Posted by Lesser Scaup
Member since Dec 2023
24 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:52 am to
The solution is simple - change his jersey number back to #40
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:00 am to
Need to start stacking guys on either side. Like Perkins and Swinson coming from the same side or Perkins and Womack. If they slide the offense over then you send pressure from the other side and come up from behind them to get them in the back field. Then you can play around with that.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:23 am to
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We took a fast, athletic pass rusher


If we use him as just this... he probably transfers out. I've heard Perkins told the coaches he wants to play lb because that's where he think he will play in the nfl.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59711 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:35 am to
You’re giving reasons he shouldn’t be playing where he is so we’re in agreement
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16617 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:35 am to
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See ball! Get Ball!


I see this - he's good at running people down. He's been adjusted to and he can't beat blocks much honestly. But he can knife between blockers in space and chase folks down.

He also has shown some improving ability in coverage IMHO. But I think folks who want him to be an edge rusher only may not have paid much attention of late. I can remember watching last year and they actually sent him more than folks realize, he just wasn't getting there.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:56 am to
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You’re giving reasons he shouldn’t be playing where he is so we’re in agreement


I'm giving reasons he doesn't have a real position anywhere. He's a very flawed player so he will have problems playing anywhere. I think ultimately Baker will keep him at the "Will" but line him up on the edge using him as the 4th rusher in an odd front defense especially with Guillory out.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5763 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:00 am to
Judging from what Brian Kelly has said, the coaching staff, in the third game of his third year on the roster, still has no idea what to do with him.

It seems clear that he won't be replacing Burns at the Star spot, or they would have surely moved him there by now. It seems they are dead set on leaving him at inside linebacker, trying to find ways to make him effective there. If Kelly and Baker haven't found a way to do it yet, it's hard to believe it will all click during SEC play.

Look, the guy has skills rushing the passer if you move him around a lot. He can chase down ball carriers. He can spy the quarterback. That's it.

Figure out some way...ANY way to give him those three responsibilities. Period. The coaches get paid a whole lot of money. Figure it out. If you only have a package for him in passing situations, then fine. That's an improvement over what they have now.

I do know that if he isn't spying Jalen Milroe this year, the whole defensive staff needs to be fired on the spot.
Posted by Reece Bobby
Member since Sep 2024
397 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:01 am to
He was wreaking havoc all season with the exception of the last game.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59711 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:05 am to
The thing is we’ve seen him in that OBLB/Star role and he was exceptional. The weakest part of his game that season was coverage which he made big improvements on last season. The narratives don’t make any sense and don’t have factual support. Whether you believe the story that he demanded to be moved or you believe Kelly saying it’s where they believe he projects to the next level the evidence shows it was a mistake to move him. This isn’t coach bashing, for example everyone remembers Javon Kearse for Florida, he was recruited as a DB at 6-4, 210lbs but Florida played him as a situational rusher and olb at first. Then they moved him to MLB for a short time before finally realizing he was a DE. So were Stoops and Suprrier stupid for not realizing what he was immediately, no but in the end he wound up where he started mostly and the rest is history.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:21 am to
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The thing is we’ve seen him in that OBLB/Star role and he was exceptional.


Moving him further away from the LOS and giving him way more responsibilities doesn't solve the problem to me. They played him at that OLB/Safety type position last year and he was average at best. Maybe he would be better in that spot under Baker but who knows. You acting like you know things as facts that are opinions is the issue. He might be better at the Star. He might not. But common sense would say Will LB is where he should shine if he had any eye discipline at all. It's just maddening watching him play. So talented but very little football IQ and easily tricked by opposing offenses. College football is a weird thing. The best thing for the LSU program would for him to be a situational pass rusher but if you told him that he transfers. I think Baker wants him to be a pash rusher but use him at the Will on non pass rushing downs.


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59711 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:28 am to
Moving him outside is less responsibility not more and less involved in defending the run not more. Dunno how you got this upside down but it’s common knowledge. Secondly it’s not an opinion, we have numbers and video, the contrast couldn’t be more clear. The bottom line is do you believe our defense can shut down or hold good teams under 20 points as currently constructed? If yes then he should stay where he is and we’ll see what happens. If no then we need the big plays he can provide at his old spot.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 11:34 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:31 am to
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Guest off moving him outside is less responsibility not more and less involved in defending the run not more.


OLB/Safeties are 100% part of run fits and have way more coverage responsibilites. Safety is mentally a much harder position to play than Will LB.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59711 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:32 am to
He’s not a safety and WLB does not have more responsibilities than MLB or someone playing between the tackles in the run game.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 11:33 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:38 am to
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He’s not a safety and WLB does not have more responsibilities than MLB or someone playing between the tackles in the run game.


I'm confused what you are trying to say. The STAR position is a hybrid safety type position. And Perkins isn't currently playing MLB he's playing the WLB. This is why I'm confused with your post. In general inside LB types have less things to worry about. Run fits and pass drops. Not usually involved in brackets. Generally only covering backs or TEs.
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:49 am to
His freshman year he had not been scouted a ton and he was paired with some dudes on the DL that would take on blocks to allow him to run free. He’s now been scouted and the DL has been considerably weaker the past 2 seasons.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59711 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:53 am to
I know, it’s because almost all defenses are sub packages now a days so positions are getting mixed up. In our alignment we have 3 down lineman and a drop end (swinson) with our 2 LBs both playing inside the tackles so our WLB plays inside on the weak side of the formation. Our star position really just plays where your traditional WLB would play. But again we saw him play there already and he was outstanding so I don’t know where this idea comes from that he wouldn’t be able to do it all of the sudden.
Posted by Reece Bobby
Member since Sep 2024
397 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:54 am to
Watching film the first thing that jumps out is that he predominantly lined up at OLB or on the edge and bull rushed in. Moving him inside has TOTALLY NEUTERED his capabilities of rushing the QB b/c oversized linemen are blocking him.
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