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re: How is Jimbo any different than Miles?
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:49 am to tduecen
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:49 am to tduecen
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Jimbo may be a "safe" hire but I doubt he is the homerun people want. I think he would be a lot like Miles in winning 10+ year but finishing 2nd or 3rd most of the time. Then he will strike gold one year win it all and go back before eventually over staying his welcome according to Tiger fans
Bringo.
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:49 am to ShreveportLSU
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What I see is that he only had real success when he had a heisman QB
He is probably the best at developing QB talent in the college game day. his resume at Auburn, LSU and FSU proves it
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:51 am to beauchristopher
Can Jimbo win in the SEC consistently?
It is one thing playing in the ACC and only having Dabo plus a bowl game but to go against Saban, Mullen, McEwain, Freeze, Sumlin, and Beilma year in and out is different.
At Florida State they can pay whatever LSU can, he is in a primo recruiting spot, the cops cover up all his players transgressions, I do not see LSU as an upgrade.
It is one thing playing in the ACC and only having Dabo plus a bowl game but to go against Saban, Mullen, McEwain, Freeze, Sumlin, and Beilma year in and out is different.
At Florida State they can pay whatever LSU can, he is in a primo recruiting spot, the cops cover up all his players transgressions, I do not see LSU as an upgrade.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:52 am to GRTiger
LSU fans want a change just to make a change, they're frustrated. Making the wrong hire sets the program back several years in reality and could have LSU paying 3 coaches at once.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:53 am to ShreveportLSU
not a dinosaur
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:55 am to GeauxingPlaces
I was there for the beginning, and didn't Geaux to bed till 2, it was life changing...lol
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:01 am to tduecen
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LSU fans want a change just to make a change, they're frustrated.
I agree, but I am not one. I also don't see Jimbo as change for the sake of change. He's near the top of the coaching hierarchy right now, at a perennial powerhouse that had fallen off the mountain when he got there.
My latest update has me immediately less confident that we get him anyway.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:02 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Can't argue with a brick wall. Jimbo would be a great hire. Will he probably equal miles success? I hope so.. At least miles prime. 10 wins a year 2 sec titles and 1 natty win 2 appearances in first 6-7 seasons. Ya I'll take that. Miles won't get us back to that.. It's time for change. Jimbo would be a good-great hire
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:03 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Oh yeah, he would not have kicked Ryan Perrilloux off the team like Les did. He had Winston's back the best he could. Miles took the risk of kicking off Perrilloux, rather than go the suspending route.. and it really set the program back to almost never recovering at the QB position.
You had me until this bit. Perilloux and Winston both should have been booted from their respective teams.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:04 am to ShreveportLSU
jimbo brought a program that was floundering back to prominence and won a MNC
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:28 am to ShreveportLSU
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Never mind that Fisher’s middling offense this season is every bit as dependent on running back Dalvin Cook -- against ACC defenses, mind you -- as LSU's offense is dependent on Fournette. Cook is responsible for 39.9 percent of FSU’s yardage in the 10 games in which he has played. Fournette’s is 40.8 at LSU.
from ESPN article
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:30 am to ShreveportLSU
To begin with: they spell their names differently.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:31 am to ShreveportLSU
Jimbo is Miles when Miles still cared and hadn't lost the energy necessary to do the job correctly.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:34 am to tduecen
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Making the wrong hire sets the program back several years in reality
And the trajectory shown by the current staff is that leaving the current hire in place will do the same thing. People stayed on board with Miles to see if he could turn things around, and the hasnt.
Yes, a new hire can set the program back but we've already seen the current staff set the program back.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:45 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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nd he still lost 11 games in the first five years, because the conference was dog shite.
8 of which were in his first 2 years when he was having to turn the program around
then 3 over the next three years and only one of them was in the "dogshit conference" and the other two, one of those was against a top 10 Florida team and another against a top 4 Oregon team in the Playoffs
his one bad loss during that time was to NC State by one point and that was still a State team that had a winning record and went to a bowl.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:52 am to ShreveportLSU
Jimbo is offensive-minded and is a great QB coach. He developed some of LSU's best QBs (Rohan Davey, JaMarcus, etc.) and he has had 8 QBs get drafted (2 #1 picks).
All of Jimbo's QBs have talked about how he adjusts the offense to work with the talent he has and he makes the QB comfortable by doing what he does best instead of calling certain plays regardless of the personnel. He is really good at making adjustments - something that Les is not good at these days.
The best example is the 2001 SEC Championship Game where Rohan got hurt and an unknown Matt Mauck had to play QB against #2 Tennessee. Jimbo started calling QB draws and read plays out of the shotgun and it worked like a charm. Tennessee was not ready for it and it played to Mauck's strengths.
I know the ACC ain't the SEC, but he has shown that with elite talent, he can get elite results. He's the coach that finally beat the SEC in the championship game ending the SEC dominance. He has his bummer games like anyone else, but the dude had a 29-game winning streak. That is impressive in any conference. Also, he beat Clemson last year when Winston was suspended for the game, so it wasn't all about Winston.
All of Jimbo's QBs have talked about how he adjusts the offense to work with the talent he has and he makes the QB comfortable by doing what he does best instead of calling certain plays regardless of the personnel. He is really good at making adjustments - something that Les is not good at these days.
The best example is the 2001 SEC Championship Game where Rohan got hurt and an unknown Matt Mauck had to play QB against #2 Tennessee. Jimbo started calling QB draws and read plays out of the shotgun and it worked like a charm. Tennessee was not ready for it and it played to Mauck's strengths.
I know the ACC ain't the SEC, but he has shown that with elite talent, he can get elite results. He's the coach that finally beat the SEC in the championship game ending the SEC dominance. He has his bummer games like anyone else, but the dude had a 29-game winning streak. That is impressive in any conference. Also, he beat Clemson last year when Winston was suspended for the game, so it wasn't all about Winston.
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