re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?

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I don't think miles loses to Notre dame or troy but its possible

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But he would've lost to Auburn for sure. This was very much a "Les Miles" season, which makes sense because the staff is still mostly Miles-chosen.

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That's actually fair. I see the negatives, however, I am in the camp that says he (and every other coach, honestly) should be allowed more time before we call for his job. Or at least make the seat super hot. It's healthy to be critical and question things, but to say he's a failure at this current point isn't really a fact. Yet. It could be. Or maybe the team plays surprisingly well and his vision has come to fruition. Not trolling or blindly supporting him, but I am looking at this next year as a pretty tell-tale sign as to what we could expect consistently.

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Reasonable approach.

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That's actually fair. I see the negatives, however, I am in the camp that says he (and every other coach, honestly) should be allowed more time before we call for his job. Or at least make the seat super hot. 

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I agree unless the entire reason for hiring him was making small tweaks to out lsu back into contention.
if that has changed then I see no need what so ever in keeping ed Orgeron as coach because in his 33 year career he has done nothing that proves he can rebuild a program.

if we are admitting now that it's gonna take more than a few tweaks then ed orgeron isn't the man for the job IMO.

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How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?

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He has not. Merely shown the idiocy of the south LA redneck.

It shouldn’t have taken more than a few tweaks Rick but what we got was a guy who’s taken a wrecking ball to the program and is sinking it fast. Look at our early signing day plus the expectations for national signing day directly after. We failed to hit our projected targets in part because of how he’s handled staff changes and I’m certain words gotten out on what was behind a lot of those decisions. Players have a lot more info now days, they know what he’s doing and you saw the affects of it this week.

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That’s actually an insult to 1970’s offenses.

There were numerous offenses in the 70s that were innovative and unpredictable.

The main problem with Miles was predictability regardless of scheme.

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I take it y’all didnt watch Miles first 3.5 seasons. Jarrett Lee was the issue and not by his fault. Ryan Perriloux who we stole from UT at the last minute, started the unraveling that spring and left Les with no choice but to remove him from the team.

You know it is bad when MadKing and RickDaddy are on the same fricking side of an argument...

Lol ain’t that the truth. I said early on I’d withhold judgement until after the season and the Canada situation played out. Now that it has plus recruiting (his strong suit) it’s pretty clear things are going down the tubes.

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would say he went 9-4 in the best conference in college football 

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you clearly didn't pay attention to the sec this year.

the sec west winner had 4 losses.


1 team in the east had less than 4 losses.
1 team in the West had less than 4 losses.

5 East teams had at least 6 losses
3 west teams bad at least 6 losses

let that sink in.

8 sec teams had at least 6 losses