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Rickdaddy4188
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Murfreesboro,TN
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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Miles definitely doesn't lose to Troy, and I think he goes for it on 4th and inches against Notre Dame, clinching the win.


that's my thinking as well.


TigersFan64
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
One thing about ol' Les, he was a gambler at times. He wasn't afraid to go for it on 4th down and inches.


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Freauxzen
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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I don't think miles loses to Notre dame or troy but its possible




But he would've lost to Auburn for sure. This was very much a "Les Miles" season, which makes sense because the staff is still mostly Miles-chosen.


Mayhawman
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
LSU owns WDE in Death Valley since '99 and curious as why you think this.
Do you project the same come from behind situation on a totally different coach and gameplan?
Like I celebrate the win, but scoff at getting in that situation.


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Nix to Twillie
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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That's actually fair. I see the negatives, however, I am in the camp that says he (and every other coach, honestly) should be allowed more time before we call for his job. Or at least make the seat super hot. It's healthy to be critical and question things, but to say he's a failure at this current point isn't really a fact. Yet. It could be. Or maybe the team plays surprisingly well and his vision has come to fruition. Not trolling or blindly supporting him, but I am looking at this next year as a pretty tell-tale sign as to what we could expect consistently.


Reasonable approach.


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Rickdaddy4188
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Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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But he would've lost to Auburn for sure.


I disagree. miles didnt lose to auburn at home.
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This was very much a "Les Miles" season


I disagree. this is one game better than the worst season he ever had at lsu. miles didn't struggle really against teams that couldn't stop the run.

I think with miles we best every team o did and beat Troy and ND. but hey it's all an opinion and nothing was a sure thing those last few years under miles.
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Rickdaddy4188
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Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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That's actually fair. I see the negatives, however, I am in the camp that says he (and every other coach, honestly) should be allowed more time before we call for his job. Or at least make the seat super hot. 



I agree unless the entire reason for hiring him was making small tweaks to out lsu back into contention.
if that has changed then I see no need what so ever in keeping ed Orgeron as coach because in his 33 year career he has done nothing that proves he can rebuild a program.

if we are admitting now that it's gonna take more than a few tweaks then ed orgeron isn't the man for the job IMO.


onlyone
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Evans Mills NY
Member since Jul 2013
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
I would say he went 9-4 in the best conference in college football while starting a ton of freshmen on both sides of the ball. When has even little Nicky done that?


cj35
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Member since Jan 2014
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
He has not. Merely shown the idiocy of the south LA redneck.


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Madking
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Ville platte la.
Member since Apr 2016
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
He’s improved local Red Bull and Cajun food sales in BR, does that count?


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LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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he offense did improve


The 2015 offense gained more yards and scored more points per game than the O 2017 offense. Oh wait, it looked better. As if that means shite.

What O showed is that he could lose four games while playing the weakest schedule in the last decade and he suffer two of the most embarrassing defeats in recent LSU history. He produced failures in five game the likes of which Les didn't give LSU in eleven years of games.


Madking
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Ville platte la.
Member since Apr 2016
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
It shouldn’t have taken more than a few tweaks Rick but what we got was a guy who’s taken a wrecking ball to the program and is sinking it fast. Look at our early signing day plus the expectations for national signing day directly after. We failed to hit our projected targets in part because of how he’s handled staff changes and I’m certain words gotten out on what was behind a lot of those decisions. Players have a lot more info now days, they know what he’s doing and you saw the affects of it this week.


Mayhawman
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Member since Dec 2009
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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best conference in college football
That gig is up.
The SEC is a shadow of it's former self.


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Tiger1988
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Houston
Member since May 2016
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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That’s actually an insult to 1970’s offenses.

There were numerous offenses in the 70s that were innovative and unpredictable.

The main problem with Miles was predictability regardless of scheme.


I take it y’all didnt watch Miles first 3.5 seasons. Jarrett Lee was the issue and not by his fault. Ryan Perriloux who we stole from UT at the last minute, started the unraveling that spring and left Les with no choice but to remove him from the team.


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StarSaint
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lafayette
Member since Nov 2006
5734 posts

re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
He hasn’t.

The sooner he’s gone the sooner this program can get back on track.


tduecen
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Member since Nov 2006
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re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
You know it is bad when MadKing and RickDaddy are on the same fricking side of an argument...


Mayhawman
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Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
7915 posts

re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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scored more points per game than the O 2017 offense.
Hell 10 of Miles offenses scored more ppg.
No great feat


Madking
LSU Fan
Ville platte la.
Member since Apr 2016
10057 posts

re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
Lol ain’t that the truth. I said early on I’d withhold judgement until after the season and the Canada situation played out. Now that it has plus recruiting (his strong suit) it’s pretty clear things are going down the tubes.


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Rickdaddy4188
LSU Fan
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
35522 posts

re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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shouldn’t have taken more than a few tweaks Rick but what we got was a guy who’s taken a wrecking ball to the program and is sinking it fast. Look at our early signing day plus the expectations for national signing day directly after. We failed to hit our projected targets in part because of how he’s handled staff changes and I’m certain words gotten out on what was behind a lot of those decisions. Players have a lot more info now days, they know what he’s doing and you saw the affects of it this week.


I'm still not sure what the hell happened with Canada. I know you've made it known that the blame should e laid at o's feet but more than a few posters in here are saying Canada was thin skinned.
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Rickdaddy4188
LSU Fan
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
35522 posts

re: How has O proved to be an improvement over Miles?
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would say he went 9-4 in the best conference in college football 


you clearly didn't pay attention to the sec this year.

the sec west winner had 4 losses.


1 team in the east had less than 4 losses.
1 team in the West had less than 4 losses.

5 East teams had at least 6 losses
3 west teams bad at least 6 losses

let that sink in.

8 sec teams had at least 6 losses


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