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re: How Far Away Is LSU From Championship Game Level?

Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:45 am to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:45 am to
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Sorry Dorothy, you are in Kansas ... no matter where you live.


I've had the power all along
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:45 am to
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Can't we just all agree that everyone wants LSU to be the best.


im not so sure this is true. there are several posters on here that have admitted to rather seeing Miles lose than LSU win......and i'm sure there's more that haven't admitted it.

their hatred runs deep for some reason.

plus...i'm pretty sure not everyone here is an LSU fan. they're just here to stir shite up
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47832 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:46 am to
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im not so sure this is true. there are several posters on here that have admitted to rather seeing Miles lose than LSU win......and i'm sure there's more that haven't admitted it. 

their hatred runs deep for some reason. 

plus...i'm pretty sure not everyone here is an LSU fan. they're just here to stir shite up


Well, this goes without saying.
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:47 am to
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Our exceptional performance against Notre Dame. Duh.


Assuming LSU is not light years removed from NC, hope abounds in Fayetteville.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:47 am to
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Watching this game, after watching our bowl in person, it seems as though we are light years away from playing on this stage, at this level.

I came away with the exact opposite impression. I watched the OSU offense thinking that we could run that exact offense, right now, with our personnel. OK, Cardale is a freak, but I think we should be able to find a QB who can go 16/23 for 242 yards, particularly with our receiving corps. Heck, he only rushed for 38 yards on 21 carries (I know, it seemed like a lot more).

LSU should dump the pro set and adapt to a power spread. OSU just gave us a blueprint on how to run a spread offense while still milking clock and physically punishing the other side, a fundamental precept of Les Miles football. And our defense is already the best in the SEC, though we need to find answers at the DE position.

Also, OSU was so heavily reliant on sophomores, and LSU's fabulous recruiting class of last year will be entering their sophomore year next season. I don't know how you watch OSU play physically dominant football like that and not get excited about LSU: we have the athletes to play like that RIGHT NOW.
Posted by Play_Neck
Member since Dec 2014
2273 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:49 am to
I agree our QB play must improve for the repeatedly-stated reasons. But most important is the play at the lines (and a little team luck and swagger).

LSU's play in the trenches must be more consistent. Our D-Line took half the season to get lined up (and amped up) properly, and our O-Line play just depends on the week.

Trenches made the difference in last night's NC. Despite giving up 4 turnovers, Ohio State won because it owned the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, and Oregon couldn't do anything about it.

Having the better line doesn't guarantee a win (see Bama v. OSU), but it puts you in the best position to make a run.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 9:50 am
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:53 am to
At this point, I'm not sure that Harris is the answer. Jennings is definitely not the answer. Until we get a competent QB and adjust to allow the offense to have an identity(besides sheety), I don't feel that we will compete for championships. Miles can do it. But will he?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108330 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:53 am to
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I came away with the exact opposite impression. I watched the OSU offense thinking that we could run that exact offense, right now, with our personnel. OK, Cardale is a freak, but I think we should be able to find a QB who can go 16/23 for 242 yards, particularly with our receiving corps. Heck, he only rushed for 38 yards on 21 carries (I know, it seemed like a lot more).

LSU should dump the pro set and adapt to a power spread. OSU just gave us a blueprint on how to run a spread offense while still milking clock and physically punishing the other side, a fundamental precept of Les Miles football. And our defense is already the best in the SEC, though we need to find answers at the DE position.

Also, OSU was so heavily reliant on sophomores, and LSU's fabulous recruiting class of last year will be entering their sophomore year next season. I don't know how you watch OSU play physically dominant football like that and not get excited about LSU: we have the athletes to play like that RIGHT NOW.



Miles/Cam do not know how to coach that offense. you have to understand all of the concepts for each position and the techniques required. they can't coach that system…i would be a half arse non-effective version. if you run that system you have to commit fully to it, not just mix in a few extra plays.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83732 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:55 am to
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LSU should dump the pro set and adapt to a power spread. OSU just gave us a blueprint on how to run a spread offense while still milking clock and physically punishing the other side, a fundamental precept of Les Miles football. And our defense is already the best in the SEC, though we need to find answers at the DE position.
yes and yes.

it could/would achieve every goal that Miles has for his offense. ball and clock control while having his QB's in the shotgun where they are assuredly most comfortable.

butttttt pretty sure that's not gonna happen.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:00 am to
can Cam coach a power spread though?
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:00 am to
Why not? Wasn't Cam talking about installing the spread after the Notre Dame game? If anything, the OSU example makes it more likely he can make a case to do so, as he can show Les how the spread can still mean power, ball-control football (as if Auburn isn't a good enough example).

I think OSU winning in such a fashion was the best thing possible for LSU. It showed how CLOSE we are with the personnel we currently have on campus.
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:00 am to
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and yet people on this board act like every coach in the country not named Miles could win a NC with a 3rd string QB.


I don't think people really think this. But is does accentuate how pathetic our situation is.
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:02 am to
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im not so sure this is true. there are several posters on here that have admitted to rather seeing Miles lose than LSU win......and i'm sure there's more that haven't admitted it. their hatred runs deep for some reason. plus...i'm pretty sure not everyone here is an LSU fan. they're just here to stir shite up



you and steve are paranoid beyond belief. This site is a small sample of the entire fan base. You cant honestly write this shite and believe it.
Posted by Mathieu7
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
189 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:03 am to
About 10-15 years if Les miles keeps recruiting these Jordan Jefferson Quarterbacks
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:04 am to
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yet in 2013 with Mett we had a 3000 yard passer, 2 1000 yard receivers, and a 1000 yard rusher


And still lost three games...Weird..........

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:05 am to
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and yet people on this board act like every coach in the country not named Miles could win a NC with a 3rd string QB


Looks like YOU are the only one saying this.....
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:07 am to
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power spread


No doubt this is what CC wants but we don't have a qb.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:07 am to
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you and steve are paranoid beyond belief. This site is a small sample of the entire fan base. You cant honestly write this shite and believe it.


i've been here a long time. i'm just telling you what i've seen, man
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:07 am to
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Looks like YOU are the only one saying this.....


nope
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32941 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:08 am to
3 loss team at best next year and the year after
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