re: How does LSU break the 3 and gone trend?

Hawkins I think should’ve come back. I think he has only played in like 2 NFL games anyway.

The way Kwon is playing it really doesn’t matter now. I’m sure he will get a major second contract.

Collins left early and went 2nd round which surprised me.

I think you are correct in that winning is the only cure.

I think the near future of the program rests on this upcoming season. If we can win 10 games and compete with/beat at least one of Bama and UGA then we can get some of our juniors to stay. Obviously Lawrence, White, and Greedy are pretty much gone but if we can show we can compete for the playoffs, we can maybe keep one or two of those guys plus Fehoko and Alexander.

If O doesn’t have us competitive with those teams this year, he’ll be gone after the 2019 season.

I left off anyone who was drafted in the first 3 rounds.

And rookie success is great but you can’t predict it. When deciding to leave early, you only know your draft grade and whether or not you can improve it.

Every player thinks he can make it in the league, it’s about increasing your odds. Sure it worked out for Godchaux but he could have improved his technique and stock abd been a higher draft pick this past year.

We can go player by player abd reason everything out but the overall idea that I was portraying I that every year we lose a player or two that we shouldn’t and that hurts in the long run.

I don’t think we lose to MSU or Troy if Godchaux is on the team cuz our DL depth would have been that much better.

Simple answer: Recruit the 3-star athletes and develop them into good/great players in their final two years. They don't see the field at age 18-19 unless they far exceed expectations over senior players.

Great players who develop and deliver eye-popping results on the field will get drafted - unless Mom and Dad are wealthy and the kid is interested in completing/earning a college degree, he's gone after 3 years.

I don't think there is a simple fix that will improve LSU's net results - Saban seems to be the only coach who is able to recruit multiple 4 and 5 star players and have them be satisfied sitting the bench for at least 1-2 years before they get to be starters. Quality depth wins NC's. Bama has it, few others do.

The 3 and Done is the great equalizer in CFB - smaller schools get 2 and 3 star recruits who may develop in 3-4 years into quality players who can compete with the 4 and 5 stars - occasionally, they outshine them. Wisconsin comes to mind as a program that develops its players well and generally keeps them for 4 years.

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How do we keep players who aren’t going to be drafted until the 4th-UDFA range from leaving school early?

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We need to stop using this as a recruiting pitch. These players are coming here with the mindset to play 3 years and move onto the NFL. We have to change that mindset.

I mean You use that pitch but you have to then turn around and get people to be realistic and make the smart decision

We recruited White as a RB and then the right decision was made for him to move to LB. it’s the same thing.

“It’s all about getting to the second contract “

I understand this logic. But how many folks like clapp and weathersby get to a second contract. Serious question. If not many then the logic above is nonsense

. If you aren’t graded that high isn’t the reality that you are not going to make it to a second contract or even a first one

Idk I think Clapp makes the roster and has a nice career

Weathersby I’m not sure if he makes the roster. I’m sure he will make the practice squad, and in the future will be signed to an NFL roster.

Recruit less talented players?

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But how many folks like clapp and weathersby get to a second contract. Serious question. If not many then the logic above is nonsense

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Clapp prob will. They like him at center, he doesn't have to start rt away. He can still get stronger and better now it's his career and not a part time gig.