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re: how does LSU baseball look next year?

Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30366 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:52 pm to
Re Ray..it looks like he was moved to the OF this year in juco.
ETA: He also didn't play after early April, so he must have a pretty significant injury.
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 3:00 pm
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:56 pm to
36-20 record this year. Lost a lot of close games on mental errors.

Young players will become better players. They will be a lot better next year. They will make the SEC tourney and the NCAA tourney.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:57 pm to
If that's the case, put Ray in the mix in left field or at DH.

Barrios is going to start somewhere in the infield. From what I've been told, he's scary-good and if he doesn't get drafted high he's going to be an impact player.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:57 pm to
Excellent chance we can host a super. Lots of returning talent. Good incoming talent, and LSU tends to get good production out of freshmen.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:59 pm to
Cajun, I agree on the talent. But Mainieri had better go find replacements for Grewe and Sanchez - not only were they hideous position coaches but they were problems for team chemistry as I understand it. It wasn't until Mainieri pulled both of those guys off the players late in the season that LSU started playing halfway well.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:03 pm to
Everything is based upon the assumption that PM can find replacements.
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:05 pm to
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But Mainieri had better go find replacements for Grewe and Sanchez



I've said this years ago about Sanchez.. I've seen this guy make lots of mistakes and I have seen him get lucky on some of his mistakes at the box. This guy hasn't changed til this day.
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8870 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

late in the season that LSU started playing halfway well.


Playing the worst teams in the SEC will also do that for you.

I seem to find it amusing though that all everyone worried about going into last season was LSU's pitching. Now, they seem to have an overabundance of it, consisting of great young talent. And that is not even including the incoming guys.

The problem now is how is LSU going to score runs next year?
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:16 pm to
I don't think there's an overabundance of pitching at all. I think there are three good-looking freshmen in Gausman, McCune and Eades. Beyond that, Rumbelow might develop into something worthwhile with a better pitching coach. And everybody else is so-so at best.

That ain't an overabundance. And while I'm optimistic about the signees, we need to see what the draft will do to us before we'll even know whether we're going to get any of them here much less get performance out of them.

But so much of these assessments comes out of the staff's inability to develop players over the last two years - hiring coaches to replace Grewe and Sanchez will determine whether those concerns will continue. If either of those guys are still here next year (which I can't imagine will be the case), this team is going to underachieve again.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19636 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 4:19 pm to
I'm hoping Forrestt Garrett is given enough time this off season to properly rest his arm for next year. He could be huge.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21961 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Mike is a huge loss but with the breakout of Katz and Jones, this team will hit the ball better


Katz is for real, but we will still need another strong, consistent hitter to replace MM.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68473 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

He didn't play well enough to warrant a high draft pick. He will be back.


Nola has shown he has all the tools to play at the next level. Kid was just complacent this year imo.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175388 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 2:45 am to
quote:

Bourgeois would have helped us in the bullpen this year.

Bourgeois was terrible. Don't even try.
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
679 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 7:51 am to
quote:

The starting pitching will be pretty good.


One would think so, but recent history doesn't bare that out. Arguably, our three best pitchers were freshman and, normally, that would bode well. But, can anyone point to any other pitchers who have gotten better during their tenure under Grewe? Maybe, Coleman, but he wasn't really with Grewe long enough for the coach to have a negative influence and Coleman just had that fire in his soul.

I hope I'm wrong and Grewe will help these guys improve, but I'm just saying that recent history does not suggest that this will happen. Let me just remind everyone that Grewe, who calls every pitch, called a third slider in the bottom of the ninth against Arkansas after the first two were left hanging over the plate with one being hit 400' fowl and the second being barely missed...then, the third straight slider, which hung over the strike zone, was hit 400' fair for a walk-off homer. I watched that sequence in total amazement and said out loud after the second slider, maybe we shouldn't throw that pitch again.

This is just a simple, yet, spot on example of the ineptitude of our pitching coach and, therefore, the head coach for not look over and saying "hey, David, maybe you shouldn't call that pitch for a 3rd straight time".
This post was edited on 5/31/11 at 7:53 am
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22219 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I hope I'm wrong and Grewe will help these guys improve,


You won't have to worry about him being around to coach the pitchers.
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
679 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 8:01 am to
I hope you're right...common sense would say you are, but I actually would have thought the same thing last year. Maybe the heat is just to high for changes not to be made this year.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8916 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 8:19 am to
Adam, whats the latest on Mitchel Hopkins, he was generally well regarded before going down with a shoulder injury. Should we expect much from him next year?
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4167 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 9:09 am to
Talented and pissed off, I hope! As for the starters, I think we have far fewer question marks than we did coming into this season. Remember, there was a reason they had so many freshman starting this year. We really missed Micah behind the plate and in the line-up, but the thing that eluded this team all season was the timely base hit. And while I don't agree with the "fire the coach" crowd, coaching decisions can be directly cited for the losses on Friday night against Florida, Friday night against Arkansas and the Saturdy game against Miss St. Somee assistant changes could definately be in order.

Mahtook will be missed, but overall this will be a better team.
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