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re: How does an "elite" program get itself into a 4 year JJ/JL mess?
Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:41 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:41 am to thunderbird1100
Bingo! Point well made.
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:43 am to Frankie Knuckles
Alot of programs have trouble finding signal callers.
Texas, Florida, and Notre Damn come to mind pretty quick right now.
I think ZM may have been the answer, Miles and him seemingly refusing to even consider him is a greater question than the JL JJ questions.
Texas, Florida, and Notre Damn come to mind pretty quick right now.
I think ZM may have been the answer, Miles and him seemingly refusing to even consider him is a greater question than the JL JJ questions.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:44 pm to tiger perry
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Gary Crowton imo
+1000
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:46 pm to Frankie Knuckles
bad recruiting and bad QB development
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:47 pm to Frankie Knuckles
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How does an "elite" program get itself into a 4 year JJ/JL mess?
you talking about the 41-12 (composite record) mess?
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Both JJ and JL were obviously not SEC caliber QB's
they helped to win a lot of games for LSU but neither were "elite" talents. some would say the same thing about Matt Mauch and Matt Flynn and look what they accomplished.
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This 4 year saga was sort of a microcosm of Monday night's game, we didnt do or try anything to change it,
dumb....make no mistake about it, bama had everything to do with our performance.
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we didnt do or try anything to change it, we just rode it out hoping it would somehow correct itself.
even tho it may seem like that the reality is that, with a brutal schedule, we won "13" games by running the rock, winning the battle for field position and capitalizing on mistakes that we forced. it's very true that bama got a mulligan, but to their credit....they played it flawlessly.
I personally think we'd all be better off if we showed some backbone by accepting the fact that we got beat as a team and stop the pathetic attacks on the very same kids who helped to win a ton of games for LSU.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:59 pm to TheDoc
Ask Les and Gary.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:00 pm to Frankie Knuckles
RP
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:16 pm to The312
In other words the Coach? Les Miles. No could the blame really be our head coach. Not developing talent, blind allegiance, happy with the status quo. He is happy as hell to just be HC at a place like LSU. He puts us thru misery every year somehow some way. The entire country is scratching their heads about LSU's Monday night nightmrare in the Dome. WHY?????
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:39 pm to The312
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blind allegiance
Well put. I really think Les would start JJ over every QB in college, probably even over every QB in the pro's.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:50 pm to Frankie Knuckles
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How does an "elite" program get itself into a 4 year JJ/JL mess?
It all stems from Ryan Perriloux. I blame RP.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:53 pm to biglego
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How does an "elite" program get itself into a 4 year JJ/JL mess?
Blame it on CLM, he was ultimately responsible for this JJ mess.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:27 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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When RS came to LSU, he suddenly lost all of his abilities at QB, amazing. Bottom line he was given a raw deal, probably given promises that weren't kept (we will give you a shot at QB), and then amazingly 'convinced' that he would make a good WR after his 2nd year in college (meanwhile, he had never played WR in his life, couldn't run a route, and didn't have good hands).
I can say this with certainty, as it came from someone that spoke directly to RS father. RS was leaning to UT. Mac Brown told him he would not play QB. When he met with Miles, he was told he was being recruited as a QB and would be "competing" for that position. That is the reason he chose LSU. What happened after he arrived, I don't know.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:37 pm to LSU Patrick
Zach Lee was the kid who jilted us for the Dodgers.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:38 pm to Frankie Knuckles
For four years watching JJ and JL play I was always thinking why didn't Les ever give RS an opportunity. Considering JJ always had that deer in the headlight look with a pass rush in his face and his inability to read defenses, it seemed like a rational choice that RS would have been given an opportunity. I thought that since the offense was taylored for a mobile quarterback, RS was a better fit for the offense. Maybe he didn't have the size but given his potential as a mobile quarterback and passer, he was a better fit for the offense over JJ. For that reason, I am at a loss for words. The one main question I have is If Zach Mett is as advertised and is good to start for LSU next year, then why wasn't he good enough to start this year?
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:48 pm to CRNA-KA
IMO, it is an inability to properly develop QB talent. RS, JL, and JJ all had more than decent reps coming out of HS (RS was supposed to be the second coming of Vince Young), but strangely have floundered after coming to LSU. Hmmmm...
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:49 pm to Frankie Knuckles
RP + Crowton = JJ/JL
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