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re: How deep is your secondary?
Posted on 5/18/11 at 7:57 am to Lbsmash
Posted on 5/18/11 at 7:57 am to Lbsmash
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Here is your reality..
You were a QB away from blowing out us lowly Big East folks at your place, at night in Death Valley.
Fify
Also, most people here aren't commenting about blowouts. You asked about a specific part of our team (not our QB), and LSU fans gave you tons of information on how this will be one of the best secondaries in the nation. Nobody here started flaming until you did.
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Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:05 am to Lbsmash
Damn, I was thinking about coming to the West Virginia game this year, but after reading your analysis for WVU this year, why put myself through the embarassment?
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:44 am to Lbsmash
quote:the key word there is "new". it takes time for a staff to gel. plus, i don't like that situation at all. hciw is weird weird. there's going to be some strange dynamics going on with wvu this season.
We got a flashy new OC who will throw it on every down and return all of our true receivers.
quote:unlikely
Be prepared for us to throw for 400 against you. And that's not smack talk, just the reality.
unc-412
vu-70
msu-116
wvu-119
tenn-121
flor-154
msu-118
au-86
ua-223
ulm-67
um-184
ua-320
tamu-218
we gave up 400 to unc in a blowout. they started throwing the ball late in the 4th when we went to prevent with backups on the field. basically, we took our foot off the pedal too soon.
not even ark broke 400 on us last year and that is with a passing offense that will most assuredly equal or better holgerson's this season. and ark has 10 times the talent on offense that wvu does. giving up big passing yards is something that probably isn't going to happen.
now, last season has nothing to do with this season but, keep in mind lsu's offense was ATROCIOUS last year keeping the defense on the field most of the game. given that, those numbers above are ASTONISHING.
wvu can certainly beat lsu but, it probably won't happen through the air. highly, highly unlikely
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:45 am to Lbsmash
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This year your coming to the (insert place) and your going to face what we hope is the nation's best offense led by the one of the top QB's in the country and by seasons end one of the nation's most explosive players, (insert player)
Yawn.
So says: Oregon, MSU, Tenn, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, and Ar-Kansas. Welcome to Big Boy Football.
In all seriousness, I do think LSU vs WV will be an absolute battle. It is a road game and I expect WV to be pumped.
Regarding the secondary, most analysts and fans will tell you that it is the strenght of an LSU team that is on the short list for the BCS NC game. (and by short list I mean top two or three)
no-peterson-no-problem-for-lsu-secondary
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:48 am to Lbsmash
quote:and if lsu had an offense worth a darn last year, wvu would have gotten destroyed. if's don't really tell you much. the main point is, lsu's offense should actually be better this season, even if only marginally so. combined with a stout defense, that doesn't look good for wvu.
You were a punt return away from a great player, perhaps the best player in the country last year from losing to us lowly Big East folks at your place, at night in Death Valley.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:50 am to Lbsmash
quote:i think you are grossly overestimating wvu's capabilities and the weird coaching situation.
your going to face what we hope is the nation's best offense led by the one of the top QB's in the country
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:51 am to Lbsmash
I'm not much on hyperbole, but this is probably the best and deepest defensive backfield LSU has ever had. The article you linked doesn't even begin to discuss the wealth that we have at Safety. Loston, Reid, Simon are all damn good ballplayers as well.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:54 am to CamdenTiger
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We are good, but questionable at MLB, and D-line
Questionable at DLine? You really think so?
Posted on 5/18/11 at 8:55 am to Tiger in NY
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The article you linked doesn't even begin to discuss the wealth that we have at Safety. Loston, Reid, Simon are all damn good ballplayers as well.
Oh Man! You are so right. And we still have not mentioned our senior starting safety, Brandon Taylor - who will start and provide leadership.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:01 am to Tiger in NY
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Questionable at DLine? You really think so?
The only question I have is which monster on the DL is going to the NFL first. I mean really, the last time we had to replace two senior DT's was...2010. That worked out pretty good.
Could you imagine if LSU could consistenly put pressure on QB's with a four man front!
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:06 am to Lbsmash
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The demographic of this site or some of you fans must be 5-12.
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Be prepared for us to throw for 400 against you. And that's not smack talk, just the reality.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:15 am to Phate
Well, over the night and through this early morning I can see some rational folks go involved.
I agree, the transition between Stewart and our new guy is going to be interesting. To say the least. However, I also know Dana has had great success every single place he's been and we are more talented than those stops.
I asked about your secondary because in order to beat this offense you better be deep at corner, and have athletic LB's and safeties that can cover like corners. From the article I posted no doubt your loaded at starter at cornerback. But it's going to take 4 corners and safties that can cover plus LB's that cover like safeties.
Look, you all are vastly more talented than us. No argument there. However, if you think this game is going to be a cake walk or blow out or whatever your in for a serious shock. Our guys are not intimidated by you or the SEC. We generally beat SEC teams and we've done so at away venues.
LSU coming to Morgantown is a big time state wide event. A packed house and a confident team and national TV with the winner positioning themselves for a big prize. Particularly in our case because your the toughest and biggest game on our schedule out of conference.
I agree, the transition between Stewart and our new guy is going to be interesting. To say the least. However, I also know Dana has had great success every single place he's been and we are more talented than those stops.
I asked about your secondary because in order to beat this offense you better be deep at corner, and have athletic LB's and safeties that can cover like corners. From the article I posted no doubt your loaded at starter at cornerback. But it's going to take 4 corners and safties that can cover plus LB's that cover like safeties.
Look, you all are vastly more talented than us. No argument there. However, if you think this game is going to be a cake walk or blow out or whatever your in for a serious shock. Our guys are not intimidated by you or the SEC. We generally beat SEC teams and we've done so at away venues.
LSU coming to Morgantown is a big time state wide event. A packed house and a confident team and national TV with the winner positioning themselves for a big prize. Particularly in our case because your the toughest and biggest game on our schedule out of conference.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:20 am to Lbsmash
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Dana has had great success every single place he's been and we are more talented than those stops
True, but he has yet to have full control of an offense at a big program. Leach ran the Texas Tech offense and Gundy controlled it at Okie State. Any concern from you guys that he has never had full control and coached under offensive guys? Not to mention, you still have Geno.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:21 am to Lbsmash
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We got a flashy new OC who will throw it on every down and return all of our true receivers. Be prepared for us to throw for 400 against you. And that's not smack talk, just the reality.
Actually it's not. Holgerson's run/pass ratio at both UH and OSU were more reasonable than you realize. His biggest win at UH was against TT in 2009. 58 passes. 36 runs. OSU vs TA&M. 42 passes. 26 runs. Bryce Bell and Kendall Hunter were both very good, and not neglected of carries.
Brandon Weeden only had over 400 yards 3 times last season, and honestly, your guy isn't close to the passer that either Weeden or Case Kennum is.
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Nothing about our offense this year is close to our offense last year.
Except the guy throwing the ball.
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and we are more talented than those stops.
Kendall Hunter (4th rnd), Justin Blackmon (heisman candidate), and Brandon Weeden were his primary skill guys. You are of the opinion that your skill guys are better than them?
This post was edited on 5/18/11 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:22 am to Lbsmash
quote:I'm not sure how many LSU fans think this... but when you make the claim that WVU is going to pass for 400 yards like it's no big deal... then your going to be met with some interesting reactions.
Look, you all are vastly more talented than us. No argument there. However, if you think this game is going to be a cake walk or blow out or whatever your in for a serious shock.
Holgerson is a great OC. It will be a great matchup and I think you'll be pretty impressed with all the athletes we're going to field in the secondary.
I can't wait to make the trip to Morgantown this year.
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:23 am to dgnx6
Deepest in Lsu History!!! 
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:24 am to Lbsmash
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Particularly in our case because your the toughest and biggest game on our schedule
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Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:25 am to Lbsmash
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LSU coming to Morgantown is a big time state wide event. A packed house and a confident team and national TV with the winner positioning themselves for a big prize.
Dammit, I want to go. If my wife wouldn't be 8.5 months pregnant at the time, I'd be there. Sounds like a blast. Should be some fun tailgaiting and a hell of a game. Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:26 am to Lbsmash
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Look, you all are vastly more talented than us. No argument there. However, if you think this game is going to be a cake walk or blow out or whatever your in for a serious shock. Our guys are not intimidated by you or the SEC. We generally beat SEC teams and we've done so at away venues.
You're (btw this is how you are is spelled) the only one saying it will be a cakewalk thinking West Virginia will easily throw for 400 yards on what could be the nation's top secondary.
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Particularly in our case because your the toughest and biggest game on our schedule out of conference.
Does that mean a conference opponent will be tougher?
Posted on 5/18/11 at 9:45 am to LSUtigersarefun
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I would give it a steady dose of running and try to wear down LSU's undersized D-Line -the freak.
Just FYI man, Mike Brockers is 6'6" 300 lbs. Anthony Johnson is 6'3" 294 lbs.
For reference, last year, Drake Nevis was 6'2" 285 lbs. Our DT's are big, athletic and good at the point of attack. Our only question on defense is linebacker, but Baker should be the only one to play all 3 downs because we'll be in nickel a lot.
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