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re: How could Slaid hit ball 4?

Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:25 am to
Posted by Broham
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Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:25 am to
It was an obvious ball to me. It shouldn't have come down to that anyway, so oh well.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:26 am to
i looked for the video on brz's website but i didnt see it. i did watch the highlights on geauxzone though.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:29 am to
I do believe that you have to expand your zone SOMEWHAT with two strikes on you, but you still have to maintain some discipline to avoid swinging at virtually unhittable pitches. I can't tell from the exactly how bad the call was, but assuming that the ball is in or about to be in the glove, that pitch does look pretty low. Did anyone ever answer whether it was a fastball or breaking ball? Anyway, hard for me to say that it was a terrible decision not to swing.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
18993 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:30 am to
It was a fastball
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96859 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:32 am to
it was a fastball and i encourage you to watch the video and not just look at the still shot before making up your mind. was it a ball..yes imo. but its close.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24457 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:34 am to
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people in the game thread said he should have swung too


FWIW, most people in the game thread aren't watching the game. That's why they are in the game thread.


Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
18993 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:35 am to
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FWIW, most people in the game thread aren't watching the game. That's why they are in the game thread.

Wrong, most are watching.


Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96859 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:35 am to
i was right behind home plate. my initial reaction was that slaid was correct in taking the pitch and that the ump blew the call.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:41 am to
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I do believe that you have to expand your zone SOMEWHAT with two strikes on you, but you still have to maintain some discipline to avoid swinging at virtually unhittable pitches. I can't tell from the exactly how bad the call was, but assuming that the ball is in or about to be in the glove, that pitch does look pretty low. Did anyone ever answer whether it was a fastball or breaking ball? Anyway, hard for me to say that it was a terrible decision not to swing.


I think at 3-2 this is correct. Not too certain at 2-2, you would really be swinging at junk at times.

But at 3-2, you got to expect the pitcher is going to throw a hittable ball.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12331 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:51 am to
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There is no way he could be expected to hit this pitch


Ok, we lost and have a really good Cal St team coming up on Friday so it is time to move on from this one. Sometimes, it is just not in the cards. Things happen and umps making bad calls is part of the game. I do agree that the umps were terrible all day, for both sides. I am still not sure how the ump, STANDING BEHIND JONES, saw him miss a tag on a baserunner standing right next to him, however.

Anywho, let's get ready to play Wed night and then get ready for the REAL season this Friday!

Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96859 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:52 am to
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I am still not sure how the ump, STANDING BEHIND JONES, saw him miss a tag on a baserunner standing right next to him, however.


i mean the ump was so close he couldve made the play himself.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26655 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:56 am to
It's not where the glove is, it's where it crossed the plate. It was a ball but not as bad as I'd thought.

Tuff break but I can't hate the ump.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 1:40 pm to
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I know it's where it crosses the plate, but that does look low.

I didn't see it live. Was it a fastball?

It was a fastball and every person in the joint thought it was ball four except for the home-plate umpire. It was not a borderline call which would suggest that batter should protect the plate. Pitch was several inches low as it crossed the plate.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96859 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 1:41 pm to
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It's not where the glove is, it's where it crossed the plate.


i know brah.
quote:

It was a ball but not as bad as I'd thought.
it was a ball but it was fairly close.
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6819 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 1:42 pm to
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Thank you, Roger Cador.


There was a high school coach who had his players automatically take on a 3-2 count. His reasoning was that there was a 50-50 chance of walk or strikeout. And since none of his players were hiting over .500, he was beating the statistical odds.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53879 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 1:59 pm to
Guys I don't think the NCAA selection committee is going to be sitting in the room when seeding the tournament and seriously evaluating Game 3 of the Princeton series.
Posted by mmill32
Williamson County, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 2:11 pm to
the strike zone ends at the lower part of the knee cap.. even in the bigs if the upper part of the ball crosses the lower part of the knee cap, it is by definition a strike w/out factoring pelotas of the ump to make the call or individual strike zones. I have yet to see the pitch from a side angle, so I'm not going to comment. For Cotton to go off on the ump says a lot about the consistency of the strike zone. hopefully a learning experience. And as bad as it may sound, not wanting to work an extra inning game may have factored into his decision
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96859 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 2:13 pm to
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For Cotton to go off on the ump says a lot about the consistency of the strike zone.


the dude was all over the place, there is no doubt. i simply could not figure out what he considered a ball and what he considered a strike.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55426 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 3:10 pm to
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I am still not sure how the ump, STANDING BEHIND JONES, saw him miss a tag on a baserunner standing right next to him, however.


That call cost us a run as well.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12331 posts
Posted on 3/7/11 at 3:12 pm to
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That call cost us a run as well.


I know, it was the end of the inning with a double play but instead the next pitch was a 2 run double...lol
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