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re: How can the same people who wanted Kiffin as OC have a problem with Freeze joining staff

Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:51 am to
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22354 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:51 am to
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I don't like freeze, but who gives a shite who the guy fricks. You really think these other millionaire coaches don't have some side chicks?


I normally wouldn't give a shite, but I despise hypocrites.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47723 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:55 am to
Just hire Kendall Briles and be done with it. The upside of hiring someone who was directly connect to dirty stuff but was close to it is that no one will come in and want to hire him.
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:08 pm to
for those TLDR: here is the gist


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I don't understand why any team would even get involved with Kiffin after all of the headaches he has caused. And what makes it even worse, is he isn't even a great coach.His 5-15 record in the NFL was horrible, so, he had to go coach in college. He ended up coaching two elite programs, with an overall record of 18-11.

It could be worse, but it's definitely not worth the hype

This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
61147 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:15 pm to
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I normally wouldn't give a shite, but I despise hypocrites.


Then I assume you don't go to stores, theaters, churches, bars, football games, etc. because all of us are hypocrites about something.
Posted by penman
Member since Jul 2009
1405 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:18 pm to
You know you’ve entered the danger zone when that is your argument vis a vis the more ethical choice.
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:22 pm to
The Kiffins and Briles combine to form a Championship Top 10 Offense in one season at FAU:

There is little doubt about Kiffin and Briles-x2 being among the "best offensive/defensive/HC minds in football": Baylor ranked in the top two nationally in total offense from 2011-15, including leading the nation from 2013-15.

Suggest you actually read what/how Kiffin (s), and Kendal Briles accomplished at FAU if you did not see the C-USA game.

FAU installs Kendal Briles' (Art's) offensive system — without a physical playbook: LINK

“It is a lot of quarterbacks and receivers being on the same page,” Kiffin said.


One receiver said it so effective because of simplicity: ‘Okay, if it’s this, you have that, if it’s that, you have this.’

Kiffin doesn’t have a playbook, an anomaly in a sport that gets bogged down with complexity.

Kiffin said he had to learn the offense from Briles because he had always used a detailed playbook.




Art Briles served as an off-campus advisor to Kiffin (plus brother Chris Kiffin and father Monte Kiffin) and Kendal Briles served as AHC/OC/QB and they had an 8-0 Conference record and a Top 10 explosive Scoring Offense. LINK


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Kiffin spoke to The Dallas Morning News in July and said he's not concerned about the public perception when it comes to his program. Along with hiring Kendal this offseason, Kiffin has brought in a number of players with questionable backgrounds.
"We want to win games," Kiffin said. "If we feel comfortable about the other stuff, that this going to help us win games and we can develop our players, that's more important than what's written out there."



I am not advocating for or against how Briles handled a scandal. Bobby Bowden famously said all of the SEC & Top programs cover up more offenses than you will ever hear about.

I believe Alleva is a hypocrite in this regard and think he should have never been hired. His 2 coaching hires prior to his own scandal departure from Duke were Franks' with a record in his five years of 7–45, including two 0–11 seasons, and Roof went 6–45. Also, in addition, he devalued this program by not going after the "Top Offensive-Minded Coach" he promised when he fired Miles.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5457 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:37 pm to
I don't want to send my son to visit your campus because you're a low-character twitter jerk who will probably spend most of your time chasing co-eds.

VERSUS

I don't want to send my son to visit your campus because you're a low character hypocrite who purchased the services of prostitutes on a recruiting trip. Plus, you displayed a complete lack of integrity after repeatedly lying about improper benefits, which guaranteed your players could not be bowl eligible.

Which sounds worse to you? They're both bad, and neither of those cretins should be put on the LA payroll. But which sounds worse to you? If you can't answer this easy question, your ethical priorities need re-evaluating.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
61147 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:00 pm to
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Which sounds worse to you? They're both bad, and neither of those cretins should be put on the LA payroll. But which sounds worse to you? If you can't answer this easy question, your ethical priorities need re-evaluating.


I've already admitted in a prior post that after finding out much info about Freeze, some from direct Mississippi sources, on things I didn't previously know, I no longer could defend his hiring. I don't know what else I can do? Maybe ask the administrators to delete this thread?
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5457 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:30 pm to
Revelator, my child, you can sing five "Hey Fighting Tigers" and three "Alma Maters" for penance, and may The Spirit of Mike have mercy on your soul. Now go in peace.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
61147 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Revelator, my child, you can sing five "Hey Fighting Tigers" and three "Alma Maters" for penance, and may The Spirit of Mike have mercy on your soul. Now go in peace.



Funny
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
11716 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:15 pm to
What job is currently available on the LSU staff?
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:18 pm to
Freeze shouldn’t be ostracized for cheating on his wife. It was wrong but as an OC I’d be ok with it. Most OC coaxh and game plan and that’s pretty much it.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5794 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:34 pm to
Kiffin is immature and just plain weird.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213910 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:45 pm to
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Kiffin is immature and just plain weird.


Who cares... He can run an offense at A HIGH LEVEL...

Saban is A total Dick, But wins titles.....

Whats your point?????????????
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7518 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 4:02 pm to
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Everyone knows that Kiffen has a reputation as a dirty recruiter and a skirt chaser.



Kiffin isn't talking about jesus every 30 seconds either
Posted by RowLseat13
ATX
Member since Nov 2016
61 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:41 pm to
Since you brought up the bible, that is my biggest problem with Freeze, he is always preaching about Jesus, God, savior, yada yada, all the while being a huge hypocrite...in dante's inferno the lowest circle of help was reserved for...hypocrites. o have no problem with him banging who he wants, just don't go around acting all preachy and arrogant.
Posted by Tiger_Stripes
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
903 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:02 pm to
Stop being stupid
You people are n ver-ending with our mouth breathing.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:06 pm to
this thread is totally necessary
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12740 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:07 pm to
Who are these people you speak of?
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:07 pm to
Because he got caught cheating. Plain and simple.
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