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re: Honey Badger is a top __ lsu defensive player of all time
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:40 pm to Scoob
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:40 pm to Scoob
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I don't think every all-pro selection should be in the Hall of Fame. Do you?
He wasn’t just All-Pro though. He was All-Pro x4 and All-Decade.
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Make sense now?
Nothing you have said has made sense. Your entire argument that he wasn’t that good in the NFL has nothing to do with stats, only that he played for 4 different teams.
You can’t actually be serious.
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 11:33 pm to RB10
I'm getting tired of debating this, but I'll go along a little more I guess.
Are you going with the idea that he gets 2x All Pro credits for 2019? Because if so, that's retarded. I don't care how many stupid side rules the NFLPA wrote into things, you don't get to be both 1st and 2nd team All Pro for the same season. I mean, did they also name Tom Brady 1st team and 2nd team All Pro?
His stats are ok. I'm not saying he was a bad player. Not every good player makes the Hall of Fame, and you're not default bad if you don't. Some of you are taking this a bit personal, it seems.
Fine. He clearly deserves to be in the NFL Hall of Fame due to his dominant performance as one of the greatest safeties of his generation, the heart and soul of the elite defenses he led, and how opposing offenses made special emphasis to counter him over the course of his career.
quote:Ok, name the years. I've looked, and what I'm seeing is 2015, 2019, and 2020.
He wasn’t just All-Pro though. He was All-Pro x4
Are you going with the idea that he gets 2x All Pro credits for 2019? Because if so, that's retarded. I don't care how many stupid side rules the NFLPA wrote into things, you don't get to be both 1st and 2nd team All Pro for the same season. I mean, did they also name Tom Brady 1st team and 2nd team All Pro?
His stats are ok. I'm not saying he was a bad player. Not every good player makes the Hall of Fame, and you're not default bad if you don't. Some of you are taking this a bit personal, it seems.
Fine. He clearly deserves to be in the NFL Hall of Fame due to his dominant performance as one of the greatest safeties of his generation, the heart and soul of the elite defenses he led, and how opposing offenses made special emphasis to counter him over the course of his career.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:40 am to Scoob
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He bounced around the league, 4 teams. Arizona wouldn't keep him unless he took a pay cut, and KC didn't even try to keep him once his contract ran out. I don't know the deal with Houston other than he only played a year there, but they clearly didn't outbid KC to keep him.
At least during the Saints years, he wasn't a target late to trade to a contender (like, for example, Lattimore going to Washington last year).
I don't see that as a HoF worthy career. To merit that, I'd say a player would be retained by his team as a valued asset; and/or traded for, as a final piece to improve the team for a run.
He was good enough to start where he was, but never good enough to be a priority to keep.
Aaron Rodgers isn't HOF worthy according to this criteria.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:03 am to Scoob
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His stats are ok. I'm not saying he was a bad player. Not every good player makes the Hall of Fame, and you're not default bad if you don't. Some of you are taking this a bit personal, it seems.
His stats are comparable to Troy Polamalu, who was a 1st ballot HOFer and one of the best safeties ever, but they were just “ok”.
You can’t be taken seriously anymore.
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Fine. He clearly deserves to be in the NFL Hall of Fame due to his dominant performance as one of the greatest safeties of his generation, the heart and soul of the elite defenses he led, and how opposing offenses made special emphasis to counter him over the course of his career.
Well, this is exactly what being included on an All-Decade team means. Excluding kickers and fullbacks, every player ever named to an All-Decade team who is eligible is in the HOF.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:15 am to magildachunks
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Aaron Rodgers isn't HOF worthy according to this criteria.
Brady and Manning were both allowed to walk away in FA. They clearly aren’t HOF worthy.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:15 am to Ryan3232
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Honey Badger had the best single season as a defender without a doubt imo
True Freshman Derek Stingley, Jr is the ONLY player in the HISTORY of College football to be named a Consensus All-American on the Defensive side of the ball....the Pandemic and injuries affecting his career but as far as the best "Single season"...its hard to Top that.
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