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re: Honest opinion of LSU's finish in the SEC next year?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:08 am to EricB
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:08 am to EricB
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Bama -> Will be better
Without McElroy, Jones, and Ingram?
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Tenn -> Will be better
Meh
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Ark -> Will be better
Without Mallett? Doubtful.
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Miss State -> This we own them talk needs to end, they are on the rise. Beat UF this year, played Auburn closer than us, and our victory over them was early and turnovers played a huge roll. Will be better.
Welcome to the SEC. But, LSU will be a favorite in that game.
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USC -> No clue. Latimore is coming back. They could be good.
Have more coming back than any other team...still, they were a pretty average team that took advantage of a very weak SEC East.
The bottom line is that the SEC is a dogfight every single year. LSU will need to be better than it was this year to win it. But, that's no different than any other year.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:11 am to joebiggin1102
LSU will win the West next year if the QB position produces.
I like our chances making the NC game.
I like our chances making the NC game.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:12 am to tduecen
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Did you see that back up QB vs Auburn
Did you see Jefferson in the Chik-Fil-A Bowl?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:17 am to EricB
Bama -> About the same (3-4 losses) due to key players leaving
Tenn -> Will be better
Ark -> Won't do as well (RM shoes are hard to fill)
Auburn -> Won't be as good (goes without saying)
Miss State -> Will be about the same
Florida -> Will be much better (waaaay too much talent; QB play will be much better)
USC -> Won't be as good. No way USC makes the SECCG next year
Kentucky -> About the same
Georgia -> Substantially better (The team is young and they were starting to gel late)
LSU => Better football team (record may be close); with either a senior QB or takeover by ZM, this offense could be lethal; Even an average offense would have had us in the NC game this year; Our offense will improve far more than our defense could fall
Tenn -> Will be better
Ark -> Won't do as well (RM shoes are hard to fill)
Auburn -> Won't be as good (goes without saying)
Miss State -> Will be about the same
Florida -> Will be much better (waaaay too much talent; QB play will be much better)
USC -> Won't be as good. No way USC makes the SECCG next year
Kentucky -> About the same
Georgia -> Substantially better (The team is young and they were starting to gel late)
LSU => Better football team (record may be close); with either a senior QB or takeover by ZM, this offense could be lethal; Even an average offense would have had us in the NC game this year; Our offense will improve far more than our defense could fall
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:22 am to Newgene
With Crowton, I say 7-5 and the Liberty Bowl. No way this team gets as many breaks next year as it did this year. You can only hide incompetence for so long.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:30 am to PiscesTiger
Realistic assessment.
We get another very good season but no championship.
We get another very good season but no championship.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:53 am to Paulu
Stating the obvious here,, but a lot of our success next season depends on the quality of our quarterbacking. How we won 10 games this year while throwing only 7 TDs is beyond me. It's hard to imagine us going 10-2, 11-1 or 12-0 with that kind of output in 2011.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 9:55 am to EricB
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Bama -> Will be better
No, they won't. Actually I think at best they will be the same. No QB, loosing Jones and both RB's.
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Tenn -> Will be better
Yep, they should be. But they aren't going to win the east.
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Ark -> Will be better
Without Mallet? I don't think so.
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Miss State -> This we own them talk needs to end, they are on the rise. Beat UF this year, played Auburn closer than us, and our victory over them was early and turnovers played a huge roll. Will be better.
True.
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Florida -> Could be very scary very quick, I think they win the SEC first year under Muschamp, because of Weis and the talent that's already there.
Could be, but 6 years of recruiting for the spread and changing to a pro style could be rough. Not to mention I think Muschamp made a bis mistake hiring Weis.
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USC -> No clue. Latimore is coming back. They could be good.
I am with you, who knows. My gut says they will be worse.
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Kentucky -> Who cares, but they seem to beat us even when we are making a run at the NC.
They will be the same ole KY.
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Georgia -> Ofcourse they are going to be better...
Got no where to go but to get better.
Except the bama game, the schedule is right for LSU. Combine that and what I have state earlier LSU should win the West and have a shot to play for the NC.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:04 am to EricB
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Bama -> Will be better
Tenn -> Will be better
Ark -> Will be better
Auburn -> Won't be as good
Miss State -> This we own them talk needs to end, they are on the rise. Beat UF this year, played Auburn closer than us, and our victory over them was early and turnovers played a huge roll. Will be better.
Florida -> Could be very scary very quick, I think they win the SEC first year under Muschamp, because of Weis and the talent that's already there.
USC -> No clue. Latimore is coming back. They could be good.
Kentucky -> Who cares, but they seem to beat us even when we are making a run at the NC.
Georgia -> Ofcourse they are going to be better...
LSU => ? We finished 10-2 this year, with some clutch wins over teams that will have the advantage over us next year...
Do we have a shot at the SECW? Im not worried about PP7 leaving, but our LB core seems to be mediocre without Shep.
Bama will not be better. McCarron is not what you think he is. He is JPW-lite. (Do you even follow recruiting?) And you don't lose Mark Ingram and say they will be better, I don't care how promising Richardson and Lacy are. Ingram was easily the best RB on the field yesterday.
Tenn -> Will be better? Uh, Marginally, but nothing to challenge for the SEC East much less the overall SEC.
Ark -> Will be better? Arguable. Wilson has some Arkansas fans screaming this and that he already is better than Mallett. I think they will notice a difference. But it's hard to lose a Top Ten NFL draft pick with two-year production of 7,000 yards and 60 TD's and non-chalantly say Arkansas will be better.
Auburn -> Won't be as good. That's an understatement.
Miss State -> will be better. Agreed.
Florida -> Could be very scary very quick? No. Brantley is the problem, not just the spread system. Pro-style or not, he is not a good decision maker. And did you see their offensive line? Pitiful. Plus they are losing 3 senior OL starters. And the leftovers have to learn a new sytem. Also, name one Gator RB that fits the pro-style offense. Overall, this is not a recipe for "scary quick".
USC -> They could be good? They lose a lot of leadership on defense, and who knows about Shaw filling in for Stephen Gracia. At best the stay status quo, which was mediocre.
Kentucky -> status quo
Georgia -> Of course they are going to be better... ? Not a given. They will probably lose both OC & DC in a clean house sweep to save Richt's job. No quick turnaround next year.
Does LSU have a shot at the SECW? Actually, they are poised to make a run at the National Championship.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:58 am to LSUFreek
LSU- 3rd in the West again. We start the season with a poor showing against Oregon but conjure up some close, ugly wins on the way to a 9 win season and another glorious Chicken Bowl.
Some here will be thrilled bc the schedule was so tough and we were breaking in a new QB, and hey you can't win them all.
Others will again be disgusted at another year of mediocre passing stats.
(I think Mett plays, but I have no faith that Crowton is leaving.)
We'll be firmly established, as it will be 4 years in a row, as a second-tier SEC team that makes it to second-tier bowls.
Some here will be thrilled bc the schedule was so tough and we were breaking in a new QB, and hey you can't win them all.
Others will again be disgusted at another year of mediocre passing stats.
(I think Mett plays, but I have no faith that Crowton is leaving.)
We'll be firmly established, as it will be 4 years in a row, as a second-tier SEC team that makes it to second-tier bowls.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 11:02 am to tduecen
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Did you see that back up QB vs Auburn... looks like he will be good
Everyone said the same thing about Brantley. Arky backup looked good against AU, but I'll reserve judgement until I see more from him.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 11:08 am to joebiggin1102
quote:We will "finish second" once again. The trend is your friend.
Honest opinion of LSU's finish in the SEC next year?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 11:12 am to biglego
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as a second-tier SEC team that makes it to second-tier bowls.
idiocy on parade...wheeeeeeee
Posted on 1/2/11 at 11:19 am to tduecen
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Did you see that back up QB vs Auburn
After seeing Garrett Gilbert and John Brantley this last year, I've stopped putting as much stock in backup QB performances when the other team did not gameplan for them.
Although I have no doubt that Petrino develops his QBs as well as any coach in football.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 11:34 am to Carlos
Brantley took more than 10 snaps in 3 games the year before Troy, Charleston Southern, and Florida International all at home. That is a little different than coming in an making plays on the road against a ranked team in the SEC imo.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:11 pm to tduecen
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That is a little different than coming in an making plays on the road against a ranked team in the SEC imo.
Not to disagree, but Wilson came in against a team that was not playing great defense at the time. I just wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in him for a season based on that one performance.
Alabama could not lose just Jones, but Maze and Hanks. That would be their starting QB, and top 3 receivers. They'll be a team with high school talent that has a lot to prove.
MSU is an improving team, no doubt. Ready to win the West, who knows?
I agree with the point that Florida has Spread talent possibly switching to pro-style. Not that it really means anything, but how did Weis do the last time he faced LSU's defense?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:21 pm to jmath23lsu
quote:Auburn did not play great pass defense all season, just because LSU could not take advantage doesn't mean they got better. That was their 7th game of the season and at home against an Arkansas team many thought would beat them. However, I would take a Top 10 ranked game on the road against a team in the SEC over Troy, Charleston Southern, and Florida International all day any day.
but Wilson came in against a team that was not playing great defense at the time
Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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LSU should be better next year. If LSU doesn't have a BCS bowl type of season next year, and compete for the SEC something went wrong
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We will "finish second" once again. The trend is your friend.
as evident by Lester never dropping less than 2 games in the reg season, ever, as a HC.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:34 pm to WelcomeToDeathValley
I'm not sure LSU will have many excuses next year...
Senior QB
Senior RB (assuming Ridley back)
Senior WR
Senior TE
Experienced OL
Experienced DL
Experienced Secondary
Youth at LB
Depth at every position
Florida/Auburn/Arkansas at home
Oregon Neutral site
Hardest away games West Virginia/Alabama and their bye is the week before Alabama.
Senior QB
Senior RB (assuming Ridley back)
Senior WR
Senior TE
Experienced OL
Experienced DL
Experienced Secondary
Youth at LB
Depth at every position
Florida/Auburn/Arkansas at home
Oregon Neutral site
Hardest away games West Virginia/Alabama and their bye is the week before Alabama.
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