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re: Hey Haters, Meet Justin McMillan, LSU QB

Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:11 am to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17351 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:11 am to
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And that doesn't fit their denigration of McMillan scenario.

Pointing out that McMillan's high school success is irrelevant is not denigrating him.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:11 am to
It’s not biased or illogical to wonder if Justin McMillan is the savior some of you idiots think he is, why was he never better than third string or practice squad? Personally, I don’t give a damn if he starts and plays well, I’ll eat the crow. The savior of the team has been on the scout team for three years! Who knew?! The answer to all our woes has been right there going against the first team defense for three years!

But I’m VERY skeptical of his abilities even over the other two guys on our roster to be able to perform well. His ceiling is lower than the other two by miles.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 11:15 am
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:12 am to
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Wait you are using Mett’s first year and third year in college as an excuse why he did beat out Jefferson or Lee but also using McMillan’s first year in college against him for not beating out Harris or Jennings. Seems legit no hypocrisy here


That's what they do.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24364 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:13 am to
I don't give two fricks who starts, I just want to win the SEC and compete for Championships
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:14 am to
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Jarret Lee, two of the worst quarterbacks in the history of college football


Know how I know you're full of it? If the QB leading us during the first half of the 11 season is one of the worst ever.....I wanna see the best.
JL was limited...but he was by far not the worst ever.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:16 am to
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Pointing out that McMillan's high school success is irrelevant is not denigrating him.


If that was all that is being said about McMillan, you are correct sir . However, I'd hazard a guess that you know better.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:17 am to
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It’s not biased or illogical to wonder if Justin McMillan is the savior some of you idiots think he is, why was he never better than third string or practice squad? Personally, I don’t give a damn if he starts and plays well, I’ll eat the crow.

But I’m VERY skeptical of his abilities even over the other two guys on our roster to be able to perform well. His ceiling is lower than the other two by miles.


Just curious, who do you feel is most capable of being the starting QB? And list your reasons why.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
10827 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:18 am to
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J. Lee was a top three Texas QB as well


He was having a good Senior year until he got ran over by Miles for his love child JJ. Always hated Miles for this.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17351 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:23 am to
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If that was all that is being said about McMillan, you are correct sir . However, I'd hazard a guess that you know better

What else is being said? People have doubts that are justified. He's a junior that has never played meaningful snaps for LSU and was the best of a mediocre bunch in the spring game.

So because many fans aren't completely sold on his ability yet, you start a thread calling them "haters". That's asinine.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:31 am to
Myles Brennan

All the pundits out there say our passing game or lack there of is what’s causing us to constantly lose the games we do. Myles Brennan has the most upside on this team to read defenses, make every single throw, throw receivers open, and be the stability we’ve needed to start scaring teams into not putting nine in the box.

With Narcisse and McMillan, we’ll see the same defenses we’ve been seeing for almost a decade now and have been doing horribly on. Nobody is scared of our running quarterbacks because we haven’t shown that we can be effective with a running quarterback.

It doesn’t seem to be too implausible to me to think that if we want to revamp our lifeless passing game that we should probably get the guy that gives us the best chance at having a better passing game on the field.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 11:53 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41826 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:35 am to
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Mett couldn’t beat out Jordan Jefferson or Jarret Lee, two of the worst quarterbacks in the history of college football




Even if you think they were bad, they are not even the 2 worst in the last decade.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:38 am to
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Plus he got pulled in favor of JJ.


in a move that cost the guy who pulled him his entire legacy at LSU...
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15056 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:48 am to
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The savior of the team has been on the scout team for three years! Who knew?! The answer to all our woes has been right there going against the first team defense for three years!


Forgive me for deflecting the topic, but if this is the case then NO ONE knew. Or SOMEONE did, and screwed the pooch, and we are pretty certain who THAT might be (hint: he may no longer work for LSU OR he may no longer work for LSU in the very near future.)
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7033 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:52 am to
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quote:

Plus he got pulled in favor of JJ.
in a move that cost the guy who pulled him his entire legacy at LSU...
It was the right move.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:52 am to
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Forgive me for deflecting the topic, but if this is the case then NO ONE knew. Or SOMEONE did, and screwed the pooch, and we are pretty certain who THAT might be (hint: he may no longer work for LSU OR he may no longer work for LSU in the very near future.)


That would be an incredible conspiracy up there with what happened at halftime on 1/9/12
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:54 am to
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Lee actually had a VERY good senior year, but people forget because of the Bama game:

104-167
62.3%
1306 yards
7.8 ypa
14 TD
3 INT
152.0 Rating

And I'm sorry, but Harris just wasn't good. Harris did worse at UNC than here, and Fedora is a good offensive coach who had developed Mitch Trubisky, the overall no. 2 NFL draft pick.


Well Harris had been mentally destroyed by Les Miles before he left LSU. Name one QB developed by Les Miles that was successful elsewhere. Miles was a QB killer for the most part.

Now let's compare Lee to Harris career stats at LSU:

Lee: Harris:

317-565 187-347
56% 54%
3949 Yards 2,756 Yards
7.0 YPA 7.9 YPA
32 TD 20 TD
21 INT 10 INT

Harris was just as good as Lee at LSU. Lee best year was his senior year. Harris did not have a senior year at LSU. Personally I believe both could, with proper development, been excellent college QBs. History says that development was not provided under Les Miles. Lee at USC, Alabama, or other pocket passing offense that developed QBs would have been a much better QB. Harris at Clemson, Ohio State, or Florida State would have been a much better QB. I mean starting their freshman years in the program. Not after their confidence had been destroyed under Miles. Remember the potential shown by Harris as a true freshman? And his soph year wasn't terrible.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:01 pm to
yeah, it TOTALLY paid dividends.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Myles Brennan

All the pundits out there say our passing game or lack there of is what’s causing us to constantly lose the games we do.

With Narcisse and McMillan, we’ll see the same defenses we’ve been seeing for almost a decade now and have been doing horribly on. Nobody is scared of our running quarterbacks because we haven’t shown that we can be effective with a running quarterback.

It doesn’t seem to be too implausible to me to think that if we want to revamp our lifeless passing game that we should probably get the guy that gives us the best chance at having a better passing game on the field.


And you based all of that on what? When did Brennan show those great attributes? Do you feel dual threat QBs are incapable of passing in general or just at LSU? Who had the better passing game on Saturday? Who was more effective on Saturday?
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:05 pm to
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Forgive me for deflecting the topic, but if this is the case then NO ONE knew. Or SOMEONE did, and screwed the pooch, and we are pretty certain who THAT might be (hint: he may no longer work for LSU OR he may no longer work for LSU in the very near future.)


Well actually someone did know. A number of players have said McMillan was legit and could win the job, including Harris, Etling, Chark and Moreau.
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