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re: Here's the incident in question. Is this really worth a carryover penalty to begin with?

Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:32 am to
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12652 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:32 am to
The whole situation is BS.
Posted by RedFishRuss
Pensacola
Member since Feb 2011
42 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:39 am to
Swinging a fist in football is frowned upon. Sanders got waived (NFL) the week after swinging in preseason. Push & shove = unsportsmanlike. Swing = suspension. I have an issue with the NCAA timing.
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7033 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:58 am to
If Brian Kelly is worth a shite as a human being, he sits this kid down and says, "Want to be a professional? Act like one. You should be embarrassed. Take your licks and learn from this situation. You will be on the sideline for one half. I expect you to support your teammates and learn from the first half, so that you are prepared for the second."
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44885 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:31 am to
Video is zoomed a bit much to see, but did he push the official out his way?
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3704 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:31 am to
Holy hell now that punishment is even more chicken shite. I don't blame Haulcy retaliating. You don't shove someone from behind and expect nothing in return.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
56163 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:32 am to
The timing is what pisses me off
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50930 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:51 am to
He threw punches so suspending him is fine. The much bigger issue is no one but the Big 12 and his former coach at Houston being in the know.

I could be wrong, but it sure seems like the NCAA didn’t even know he was suspended until Clemson brought it up and they reached out to the Big12 for “clarification”.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28311 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:56 am to
Yeah it’s just a weird deal. A lot of people are mad at the NCAA, but I don’t think even the NCAA knew he was suspended. It appears only the Big12 and Houston knew. And agree or disagree with their choice, I can certainly understand why Houston didn’t let his future school know, either intentionally or as an oversight.

I can also understand why LSU, even if they knew about the ejection, had no incentive or reason to “get clarification” and prompt a possible suspension when by the facts known at the time he wasn’t suspended.

It’s a strange deal, but understandable given the circumstances, and certainly a direct result of the current transfer portal. At the end of the day, it’s really not a huge deal. It happened and will be a non-story and in the past after a mere 30 minutes of football.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17033 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:49 am to
I don’t disagree with you there. I think the NCAA dropped the ball by only notifying the school. If the school was getting punished then fine, but if you are punishing a specific player no matter what school he plays for, you have to notify that player directly.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50930 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:53 am to
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I don’t disagree with you there. I think the NCAA dropped the ball by only notifying the school. If the school was getting punished then fine, but if you are punishing a specific player no matter what school he plays for, you have to notify that player directly.


Again, the NCAA didn't send the letter to Houston. It was the Big 12 that handed down the suspension.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17033 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:59 am to
Sorry. Big 12, NCAA, or whoever I don’t really care. They should have notified the player.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:03 am to
I still think we should be able to appeal, and then sit him next game, due to how this all went down, and the timing of it. Hell, Michigan gets to choose the games their coach must sit out.

Frick Houston and Frick Clemson.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50930 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:04 am to
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Sorry. Big 12, NCAA, or whoever I don’t really care. They should have notified the player.


I imagine it falls on the coaching staff to inform the players. The issue here is there should be language in play that states the coaching staff has a responsibility to inform all parties involved in a suspension.

Seems to me the Houston coaches never told Haulcey (They probably knew he was thinking about transferring) and they didn't think it was their problem anymore.

ETA: It should also be required that they list any known pending suspensions in the player's transfer paperwork. People are blaming the NCAA, LSU, Clemson and the Big 12 when the real problem is Houston's coach and/or AD. They knew the Big 12 had suspended Haulcy and they didn't tell anyone about it, unless Haulcy is lying about never being told because he definitely wouldn't forget something like that.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 10:10 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17033 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:11 am to
quote:

I imagine it falls on the coaching staff to inform the players. The issue here is there should be language in play that states the coaching staff has a responsibility to inform all parties involved in a suspension.

I mean they definitely should tell the player and I agree that there should be language that states that. But if there isn’t, then I believe whoever is Reddit the suspension should be responsible for notifying the player of said suspension.

I also believe that there needs to be some sort of system to track all of this. It’s insane that the only paper trail is “we sent a letter to Houston”
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8278 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:47 am to
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It’s insane that the only paper trail is “we sent a letter to Houston”


Agreed. We don't even have a specific date the letter was written or the date it was received.
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