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re: Here is what I learned about JL today

Posted on 3/10/09 at 5:59 am to
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 5:59 am to
Whoopee
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 6:25 am to
quote:

See LSU vs Fla.
2005.


see the stats again.

I was there.
Posted by SECBengal
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 7:22 am to
JL will be a backup to JJ. There's no way the coaching staff allows the Tigers to lose 5 games this year.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 8:27 am to
FWIW, I hope JL starts just so everyone of you freaks out
Posted by roygu
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 8:29 am to
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JL will be a backup to JJ. There's no way the coaching staff allows the Tigers to lose 5 games this year.



What about the prediction that we didn't need a quarterback? With the running backs, defensive line, and offensive line in o8 we could line up and run the ball over anyone.
New prediction, Coaches won't allow five losses.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 8:30 am to
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I'm not saying I hope it, but if he takes back over, it would mean he improved very significantly. While I wouldn't bet on it happening, it is certainly not out of the realm of possibility. Regardless, the better JL is, the better LSU will be. Whether he starts or pushes JJ to get better as well.



I will say that for LSU to accomplish their goals of championships, we are going to have to rely on both of those guys to come up big throughout the season.


Carl,you need to stop adding logic to these Lee posts.
Posted by gliterein
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 8:37 am to
the best thing that miles could do to help lee turn the corner and fulfill his promise as a QB is to make every practice and scrimmage FULL CONTACT for the defense every time they pressure lee.

lee needs to be hit - hard and often - and he needs to learn to perform in that context.

until he overcomes his FEAR OF CONTACT, he will never amount to anything in live action.

of course, if miles were to tell lee that this is the plan for spring ball, lee would probably beat a hasty retreat to natchitoches at that point.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 8:38 am to
quote:

FULL CONTACT


:kige:
Posted by fredsanford
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:04 am to
i heard the coaches finally figured out he's left handed
Posted by hotrod
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:10 am to
quote:

see the stats again.

I was there.


so was I, we had 5 turnovers.

4 ints, 5 fumbles........ whats the difference.?
TO is a TO.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:17 am to
Jamarcus did not throw 4 INT's in that game.

you were wrong.
Posted by LSUNO
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:23 am to
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he struggled and almost paniced when he was forced to look at his second receiver, or God forbid his third receive


FALSE. Or maybe I should say STRONGLY DISAGREE. JLee did alright when he looked around. He played poorly when he locked in on one receiver AND HAD TO THROW TO THAT ONE GUY.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:25 am to
quote:

You really dont like what you have seen from JJ more than JL?
I haven't seen JJ in a pressure situation...so, I still think JL has a chance...his experience from last year my be the difference. Just because he sucked last year doesn't mean he will suck this year.
Posted by hotrod
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Jamarcus did not throw 4 INT's in that game.

you were wrong.


I never said he did.. he threw 2 picks and 1 fumble, RBs had 2 other fumbles for a total of 5 tos...not sure how much about football you know, but turnovers hurt equally, regardelss if its a fumble or an int.
Posted by Bad Cat
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:29 am to
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...he struggled and almost paniced when he was forced to look at his second receiver, or God forbid his third receiver.


That is one of the best reasons for not playing redshirt freshman QBs in the SEC.

Until our other QBs can prove me wrong, they will struggle in the same way.

Obviously, if your redshirt freshman QB is a duel threat, he will more likely panic early and start running too early and too often.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:39 am to
quote:

A guy calls in today


Bill Firnberg. He is good friends with Beau Sylvester, who is on the show a lot. I imagine he is friends with Bart too, but I don't know Bart.

Hi Bill! Hi Beau!
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33231 posts
Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:42 am to
I truly believe JL is essential to our program's success.......as a backup, the kid could blossom and repair his confidence for the future. HOWEVER, JJ has stepped up and earned the right to be the front runner. I also believe JJ is going to be very special leaving us with a star and, hopefully, a dependable backup.

JL is fighting and this is a good thing.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:08 am to
Me...

quote:

when was the last time a team won a football game while the QB threw 4 INT's?


You...

quote:

See LSU vs Fla.
2005.


Me...
quote:

see the stats again.

I was there.


You...

quote:

so was I, we had 5 turnovers.

4 ints, 5 fumbles........ whats the difference.?
TO is a TO.


You again...

quote:

I never said he did.. he threw 2 picks and 1 fumble, RBs had 2 other fumbles for a total of 5 tos...not sure how much about football you know, but turnovers hurt equally, regardelss if its a fumble or an int.



Am I going crazy here or is that not what you said?
This post was edited on 3/10/09 at 10:11 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:12 am to
I had said "when was the last time a team had 4 INT's and won the game."

you responded with "LSU florida 2005"

Jarmarcus did not throw 4 INT's in that game.

You contradicted yourself.
Posted by PurpleKnight88
Laplace, LA
Member since Jan 2009
856 posts
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:27 am to
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I hear about how all this competition will improve Lee, as if not getting booed by over 90,000 people isn't motivation enough. But Competition can be a double-edge sword. Yes, logically it can spark improvement b/c you want to be better than the person you are competing against, or you can be demotivated by the competition and give up b/c you don't think you can ever be that good. Its all about your mindset. And the mindset of Lee is what's in question in this thread, not his physical capability of playing the QB position. So I have a feeling that Lee could very easily be intimidated by JJ's performance in the bowl game, and thus be demotivated to succeed b/c he won't have the confidence in himself to think he can be that good, which is crazy because he has shown he can make some awesome throws.


You make some very good points. Lee will be competing against the other QB's as well as himself. The fact that Lee had problems with film study is very alarming. If he didn't think it necessary to study film to help correct the mistakes he was making then he was merely going through the motions. With QB being a leadership position, what exactly does that say to the rest of the team especially to a team that has little or no confidence that you can lead them? Having a QB that performs badly or consistently makes the same mistakes and then doesn't take the necessary steps to improve (i.e. film study) makes it seem like he really didn't care if he improved or not. I hope that's not the case because the guy has the physical tools to play. JJ may not have faced the full SEC schedule but for him to stand up in front of the team prior to bowl game and tell them that he would not let them down showed leadership well beyond his freshman status. This is the type of leadership that Lee needs to show to win back the confidence of his teammates even if he is the eventual backup to Jefferson. Talent without commitment means nothing. If Lee couldn't or can't show enough commitment to gettting better by doing film study, then I definitely don't want him under center for LSU.

I wonder how his teammates felt about his neglecting to do film study.
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