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re: He Could've Just Fired Sloan. CBK didn't want to be here anymore.

Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by The Detroit Lions
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:23 pm to
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If Scott told him to fire Sloan and he said no, is that not "insubordination" and LSU could fire him for cause?


Insubordination would be a stretch. Scott could've fired Sloan himself. There wasn't likely a breach of contract here.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41631 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:36 pm to
He had every right to bitch at those stupid coaching moves and stupid player mistakes. He's a coach not a friend.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62075 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:57 pm to
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It seems that he was mailing it it to me.


It seems that way to everybody. Now. In hindsight after everything has come out. It didn’t seem that way in real time until this year if you’re being intellectually honest. Though he may have been since he got here, we didn’t see it.

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Again, to give him that contract was supremely stupid.


I don’t get this take and it’s 100% made with 20/20 hindsight. It was what it took to poach the Notre Dame coach, who was in the middle of an 11-1 season and still had a legit chance of making the 4-team playoff. It was the absolute best hire we could have made on paper, and that contract is what it took. The market is/was the market. And, we were able to fire him 3 1/2 seasons into it, despite the buyout. The buyout didn’t prevent his firing 35% into the full contract, and it’s not gonna hamstring us when hiring a new coach. Sounds like 1 dude pretty much committed to paying almost all the buyout. Kelly goes 10-4, 10-3, 9-4, 5-3 and is shite-canned. How did the contract actually “hurt” us?

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Thanks, Scott.


He did what he had to do to get the best coach available. You’re judging it based on the results—which weren’t even terrible—rather than the reasoning, which was sound. Didn’t work out, but the process/reasoning is more important than the results. Over the long haul. And it’s hard to fault the process of the hire. The narrative was always that the buyout was going to hamstring us and make us stuck with Kelly for 2 or 3 more years. That’s why we thought it was bad. But since we shut-canned him after just 3 1/2 years, clearly, we were all wrong about that. The money wound up not being an issue. We rounded it up in 24 hours.

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It'll be some years again before the program is relevant.


What? On a Monday in late October, where 99% of the national media is focused on the NFL, we got talked about by Pate, Russillo, Cowherd, Klatt, and I’m assuming all the Barstool and ESPN guys. We’re more relevant today than we’ve been since Jayden won the Heisman Trophy—the 3rd in LSU history—in anomalous season where we didn’t really compete for the NC, which you almost have to to win it. Jayden put together maybe the best or 2nd best season (behind Burrow 5 seasons earlier) in the history of college football.

And national media today are talking all about how attractive our job is and who might take it. We’re super fricking relevant today. Not in the way we’d all like, but we are extremely relevant, nonetheless.

And in 2025, Indiana hired a coach 1 year ago, made the playoffs, and are currently ranked #2 in the country. How did any of this “set us back” or make us “irrelevant” for even ONE season, much less seasons plural? The right coach/QB could have us in the playoffs as soon as next season.

I don’t think you’re being intellectually honest. That, or you have no idea about the landscape of college football in 2025. Or don’t understand the definition of the word “relevant.”

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92751 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:12 pm to
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LSU has a real leadership problem. That much is evident to anyone paying attention. It has been 6 seasons since 2019. The program has done squat in that time. One SEC championship appearance. That’s it. Is that the expectation from 10M dollars a year?


Kelly wasn’t here for 2 of those years brah when O was busy fricking us. Kelly deserves most of the blame for his own demise but it seems a bit unfair to hang those two post-2019 years on ‘em
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7805 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:38 pm to
by himself
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15373 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:16 pm to
No you’re right. BK brought us back to the brink of greatness in no time. I have never thought hiring him made much sense. Ever.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15373 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:18 pm to
Your notion of relevance is curious. Hahahahahaaaa
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8862 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:52 pm to
Kelly thought he was too expensive to fire and called Woodward's bluff when Woodward demanded he made moves.

It back fired.
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
6109 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:55 pm to
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Literally threatened to fire the special teams guy on the sidelines lmao


In all fairness, he should’ve
Dude ran the same coverage 3 times in a row and was a tackle away from housing it again
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15373 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:11 am to
I said LSU leadership, friend. Read it again and what I said is 100% accurate.
Posted by Soggy_Bottoms
Member since Sep 2025
175 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:22 am to
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CBK didn't want to be here anymore.

Shouldn't have been here in the first place. Brian Kelly started to catch hell for the first time at ND, and started looking for a golden parachute. In walks Woodward giving away free money
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
4795 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:26 am to
That stuff was def leaked by Woody. No way Kelly would sacrifice his job for Sloan. That makes absolutely zero sense. If woody knew it was a bad hire, he has to save face somehow.

BK played his cards to get out and got his wish. You could tell that Kelly looked beat up and no interest in continuing. Even how he addressed the media was completely different. He went into that meeting knowing he was done either way it went.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
24812 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:35 am to
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I think he clearly had no interest in moving forward with us and used this as a way to leave.


It's that or he knew that there was no way he'd climb out of this hole that he dug. He was going to get fired eventually, even if he had fired Sloan. So there was no point in continuing on. He'll get paid the same either way.
Posted by Superfluous Tiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
934 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:37 am to
The story sounds like BS.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 8:38 am
Posted by icoczar
birmingham
Member since Sep 2005
1251 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:41 am to
Daniel's improved himself with the goggles. Sloan was clueless.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65410 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:42 am to
Reading the tea leaves from various media sources, I think it's pretty clear Davis was one of Woody's plants on the staff and Woody went to bat for him when BK wanted to fire him, in addition to Sloan. BK probably figured out in that moment why Woody didn't want to fire him and called him out. Shouting match ensues, it's over at that point, just a matter of how they fire him.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6345 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:48 am to
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Every bad play you go cuss out an assistant?

Saban never did that stuff.
I remember him reaming Kiffin. Saban would absolutely light you up. Its just that he had the trophies to back it up.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:55 am to
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Finished 11-1 at ND in 2021, still didn’t make the playoffs so he quit & left for somewhere he could win it all at

He actually left ND before they knew if they would or would not make the playoff. He quit on that team with a very real chance they they could be announced as a playoff team just days later.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25593 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:59 am to
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. He also knew damn well that Sloan would be fired before we ever let go of Brad Davis.


Why not let him fire Brad Davis? He’s a big part of the problem.
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
2099 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:00 am to
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Daniel's improved himself with the goggles. Sloan was clueless.


Not true. Sloan helped Daniels.
More importantly, Daniels helped Daniels.

Same w/Burreaux. Coaches can help, but you’ve got to have internal drive to be elite.
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