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re: Happy watching these Tigers improve…McMahon can coach and it’s showing up

Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:48 pm to
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He was awful at actual play calling and coaching.


You don’t win as many games as he did at LSU, and you don’t take over a completely dead with zero hope program and win a conference with them in year one if you aren’t coaching Xs and Os at a decent level.
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:49 pm to
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Mcneese St schedule is laughable and they are ranked because of Wade name

They aren’t ranked. It’s all
Relative. That mcneese team last year lost, 21 games? It’s a hell of a turnaround.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:50 pm to
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Wade could bring in good, not great players, and they'd play good, not great. Weren't ever going to go deep in the tourney, because when someone figures out the weak spot he can't address it.

If you give McMahon similar talent (which we aren't at yet), I think he can make some in-game moves that would counter some of those teams. Yes, first you have to build the talent up, for that to be relevant.


In his second season at LSU and at the age of 35, Wade’s team went undefeated on the road in SEC play. He did that with multiple freshmen starting and playing key roles.

Do you really think he did that without being a good “X and O’s” coach, capable of making adjustments. Again, people who repeat this BS are grasping at straws to somehow justify that McMahon is better than Wade in some aspect.

Spoiler alert: he’s not. McMahon will never accomplish what Wade did in 5 years even if he stays here 10 years. MM isn’t winning the league and he isn’t getting us to 4 consecutive tournaments.

Why? He can’t recruit and manage a roster at that level and he’s not as good at developing talent. And no, he’s not a far superior X and O’s coach. Wade had both top 20 offensive and defensive efficiency teams at LSU. That means he knows what the hell he’s doing.
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6263 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:50 pm to
I don’t disagree with that, but it was street ball and not actual play calls. Watch Alabama and how they spread and move and get to spots
I’m not hating on Wade at all, I wish he was still here, but I don’t that McMahon is awful. He will be just fine next year
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:53 pm to
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I’m not hating on Wade at all
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but it was street ball
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
Member since Jan 2008
1025 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:53 pm to
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He will be just fine next year


It doesn’t and shouldn’t take 3 years now a days.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8534 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:54 pm to
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I don’t disagree with that, but it was street ball and not actual play calls.


Please define “street ball”.

He didn’t call plays!?!?!

You’ve just shown us all how little you understand basketball. Thanks.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61888 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:57 pm to
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but it was street ball


It’s about getting matchups and allowing your players to take advantage of mismatches.

It can’t be stressed enough that McNeese State may have the worst history of any division one basketball program, they have nothing to offer recruits to entice them to Lake Charles. And Will Wade has them on top of their conference with some solid non conference wins.

Is he just street balling his way through the Southland Conference? It’s year one, he doesn’t have NBA players.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37148 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:58 pm to
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Will Wade was one hell of a bag man and great motivator
He was awful at actual play calling and coaching.
And I loved the guy and hate that he is gone, but those are just facts
Mcneese St schedule is laughable and they are ranked because of Wade name


Could literally be the dumbest shite I've seen with multiple talking points in one post.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47907 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:59 pm to
What you’re saying is factually incorrect and ironic since McMahon actually doesn’t run anything on offense.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
829 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:59 pm to
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they are ranked because of Wade name


I’d love to be ranked because our coaches repetition… of being a good coach.

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Will Wade was one hell of a bag man


He lost several recruiting battles and landed a total of 4 5* recruits here. People acting like he bought a Duke/UK class are either clueless, or just regurgitating talking points.

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great motivator


Pretty important…

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He was awful at actual play calling and coaching.


He had a top 25 offense every year but 1 while here. His worst offensive year he had a top 5 defense.

What do you consider coaching to be? I think building a team, developing them, and then installing your system for them to follow is a little more important than the X and O play you draw up during a time out.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8534 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:03 pm to
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His Xs and Os are better than Will Wades.


McMahon’s game plan tonight says otherwise. Literally tried to run with Alabama instead of slowing the game and using his matchup advantages in the front court. End result, Bama is going to hang 100+ on us and win by 20 points.

Great X’s and O’s …
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54582 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:06 pm to
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He was awful at actual play calling and coaching.
as opposed to this god awful gamplan mcmahon had against this bama team. let's run with them and not slow it down at all pathetic
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47907 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:12 pm to
I could name 5-6 sets off the top of my head that Wade ran every game and I promise you guys like that poster couldn’t name 2 McMahon has ever run. When you see “street ball, Xs and Os or fundamentals” it’s a dead giveaway they don’t know what they’re talking about.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37148 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:15 pm to
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promise you guys like that poster couldn’t name 2 McMahon has ever run. When you see “street ball, Xs and Os or fundamentals” it’s a dead giveaway they don’t know what they’re talking about.
This is what pisses off the most.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47907 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:18 pm to
We waste so much time with their nonsense that actually discussing our basketball team is impossible.
Posted by McMahonnequin
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2022
537 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:24 pm to
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using his matchup advantages in the front court.


Lol what front court advantage? LSU's bigs are pathetic. The only chance tonight was if they got lucky and bama was ice cold from 3. Unfortunately that didn't happen
Posted by TigerFan91
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Member since Jan 2005
27139 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:25 pm to
Yea we tried the first few possessions through Baker but he turned the ball over and committed and offensive foul. the bigs are bad he missed again there
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3187 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:26 pm to
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If you give McMahon similar talent (which we aren't at yet),


WTF do you mean… if you give? You don’t give a head coach talent, he recruits it or he doesn’t. 75% of what makes a good college coach good is how well he recruits.

McMahon is going to have to improve his recruiting or LSU will never have a really good basketball team under him no matter how good he can do X’s and O’s.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37148 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:04 pm to
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We waste so much time with their nonsense that actually discussing our basketball team is impossible.
You more than me honestly.

Dudes that just watch minutes of games or catch a game here or there and tell me some fricking nonsense.

It pisses me off. It does, y'all know that.

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