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re: Hannagriff “Orgeron’s doing better than most of his replacements”

Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:28 pm to
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No we haven't. Ole Miss had sanctions on them when he was head coach.

Huh? Ole Miss has been on probation 3 times in school history: 1986, 1994 and 2017.

Cutcliffe wasn't a superb recruiter, but he left Orgeron a program capable of winning.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:32 pm to
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No we haven't. Ole Miss had sanctions on them when he was head coach.


More lies.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160538 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:46 pm to
that old david cutcliffe was known as such a cheater
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:47 pm to
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he didn't have to build this program ben


bullshite. This program is depleted of talent in key areas. He's absolutely had to fill the coffers with fresh talent. The defense looks good except along the defensive line but the offense is young across the board and needs help at RB,Oline, depth at QB. Myles has been hurt all year so Burrow was it. Talented at WR but obviously not really ready yet.

The team talent wise was not and is not competing at or near bamas level.

Everybody loves to slam the coach but will not acknowledge the depth and talent issues facing the team and I'm the one that gets called biased.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:48 pm to
Lester Earl might be Hanni
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:49 pm to
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I'm not reading past this. You're fricking stupid.

I managed to make it to “overhauled the program from the inside out.”
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47526 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Everybody loves to slam the coach but will not acknowledge the depth and talent issues facing the team and I'm the one that gets called biased


Going in to 2016 LSU had the 6th rated roster, taletwise, in the country. Going in to 2017 LSU had the 6th rated roster, talentwise, in the country.

The offensive and defensive lines are weak spots, and haven't improved in Orgeron's 2.5 seasons.

Why do you continue to make things up?
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted by SimmonsLSU25
Abbeville
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:51 pm to
Hanny lol is drinking the juice forced upon him
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Herman had the #3 class last year and currently #7 this year. Coach O had the #15 last year and currently #9. Seems like he is doing just fine to me


Then he has no excuses in a head to head. You can bet that LSU has a higher SOS.
Posted by RedPop4
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Why do you continue to make things up?

Uh oh. Be ready for the "you're lying" post from him.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10656 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:58 pm to
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You think Texas was on par with LSU when ed and Tom were hired?


Isn't Herman supposed to be an offensive genius? Texas had the #16 offense in the nation in 2016 under a defensive HC in Strong. They are currently #51 in the nation under Herman in a conference with some of the worst defenses in college football. Considering the drop off at Texas on offense, it's scary to think of what he's do against SEC defenses.
Posted by Heyes
Baton. Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
702 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:00 pm to
Smart is only in year two at Georgia. In Muschamps second year at fla they went to the sugar bowl. Two years later the gators fired him . Smart , may or may not be the answer at ga but it is too early to tell .
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160538 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Everybody loves to slam the coach but will not acknowledge the depth and talent issues facing the team and I'm the one that gets called biased.


many have acknowledged the issues, but the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction when people like you sensationalize those issues in order to build up O.

The talent level has not dropped so low that what happened at home against Bama is an acceptable result. The talent is not so depleted that they can't look capable against an atrocious Arkansas D.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Tom Herman is a pretty good comparison I think. Ed has him beat.
what? Texas was a dumpster fire and he has them respectable in year two. No that’s not comparable at all. Texas was coming off a loss at kansas. LSU had 9 wins
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:10 pm to
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The offensive and defensive lines are weak spots, and haven't improved in Orgeron's 2.5 seasons.

Why do you continue to make things up



That's why coach O took 7 offensive lineman in last year's class because he had all of this offensive talent.

Why don't you address the specific areas that I mentioned or just STFU.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47526 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Why don't you address the specific areas that I mentioned or just STFU.


The areas of concern that were created on Orgeron's watch?

Yeah, let's address those.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:14 pm to
"Going in to 2016 LSU had the 6th rated roster, taletwise, in the country. Going in to 2017 LSU had the 6th rated roster, talentwise, in the country.

The offensive and defensive lines are weak spots, and haven't improved in Orgeron's 2.5 seasons.

Why do you continue to make things up?"



Who were the brilliant minds that had LSU with the 6th rated rosters in both 2016 and 2017?

The people that really matter; the NFL, didnt seem to agree.

Again, the 2017 team had the following guys who graduated from our front 7

Corey Thompson 4 star
Devin Voorhies 4 star
Frank Heron 5 star
Greg Gilmore 4 star
Christian Lacatoure 3 star
MJ Patterson 4 star
Donnie Alexander 3 star
Clark 4 star

Did the star gazers who compiled that list give us major props for having so many guys who were 4 stars 3-4 years earlier? I guess. Did they factor in the fact that not one of those guys was drafted or made an NFL roster? This years front 7 is going to yield one guy (White) who is going to get drafted this spring. Everybody else is either not yet eligible or recognizes they are not ready

Offensive Line - Last year Clapp is taken in the 7th round and Weathersby doesnt get drafted. This year Brumfeld will be lucky to get a camp invite.

Please just stop with the BS that LSU had Top 10 talent in 2016-2017. The FACTS don't back up that claim. At least not up front where games are actually won and lost.

There were elite guys like Fournette, Guice, Adams, Jackson and Chark. Those stars were supported by far too many guys who had solid recruiting rankings, but never really developed. Hell, there was a reason why O went out and got 8 transfers the last two years. When was the last time an LSU HC had to do that in order to quickly improve the talent level?

This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:15 pm to
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Coach O walked into a better situation than every other coach LSU considered.


Coach O walked in to a situation where we had just fired one of the best coaches ever to come through the doors. Expectations are unreal. Special teams were a joke, offense was insufferable and the cupboard was VERY dry at RB, OL, DL and LB. He has made strides in EVERY area with the exception of offense. Have patience.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47526 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:17 pm to
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Please just stop with the BS that LSU had Top 10 talent in 2016-2017. The FACTS don't back up that claim. At least not up front where games are actually won and lost.


I'm sorry you don't like the fact that unbiased people said LSU's roster isn't trash. Let's move on.

What has Orgeron done to improve the trenches? Is the 1 (that's one as in single) defensive linemen committed in the 2019 class going to help turn it around?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47526 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:18 pm to
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He has made strides in EVERY area with the exception of offense. Have patience.




You think he's "made strides" on the offensive and defensive lines?

ETA: I'm not even going to address the argument that running back was "very dry" when he had Derrius Guice, Darryl Williams, Clyde Edwards-Helaire and Nick Brossette all on the roster when he arrived. The idiocy in that sentiment can't be overstated.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 2:20 pm
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