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re: Hannagriff *and now Moscona* going in dry about Alleva's handling of hire

Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Jdiggy
Member since Nov 2016
693 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:30 pm to
I thought I was reaching acceptance until listening to Moscana today. It ripped the wound open again and I'm frick POd.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:31 pm to
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OK... TELL ME that you have FACTS that coach O would do worse than any other coach we could have hired..... Please tell me HOW you know..................



You don't KNOW the 5 star player will turn out better than the 2 star player.

But only a fricking tard picks the latter over the former given the choice.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213746 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

Should we have beaten Florida this year?


Yup... BUT We also beat Arkie this year and the last two years we lost and looked horrible doing so........

Say what you want but YET YOU have given me ZERO reason to think that the other two could do better than O the next few years...........
Posted by BGSB
Opelousas
Member since Jan 2010
2257 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:33 pm to
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miscona's opening


Spot on
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25965 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:34 pm to
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Yup... BUT We also beat Arkie this year and the last two years we lost and looked horrible doing so........

Say what you want but YET YOU have given me ZERO reason to think that the other two could do better than O the next few years...........


What did Jimbo do to Florida? I didn't check the box score. How'd he do? What's his record like against Florida?
Posted by TB69
Member since Oct 2008
328 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:35 pm to
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Alleva is lazy and without fight. He never acts in the best interest of LSU or fans. He does what is easiest, expediant and cheapest. He takes his ball and goes home because Herman wants to listen to Texas instead of getting on a plane and going to Texas to sell LSU. Oh my God, to think he might have to actually go close a deal with a guy on the fence. Who would ever think that someone making a clear life decision might need to be face to face with a future employer. He is scared to death of competition and does not have enough belief in LSU or love for LSU to sell LSU. If he loved this school he would not make a hire like Johnny Jones because Dale Brown insisted on it. Or any other coach just because THEIR dream job is LSU. It's about talent and big picture. Compare our the head coaches at LSU for basketball and football to that of other schools like TCU. Alleva's search never extended beyond Fisher, Herman or Orgeron and it's flat out lazy, irresponsible and malpractice and he needs to be fired.



This. Alleva would never make it in the real world of business. You have to check your feelings at the door and not get but hurt when the other guy does what's in his best interest. You can't just take your ball and go home when things get tough. Obviously Herman was their guy. Then get on the damn plane Friday after his game and don't leave until He's on the plane.He signed for 5 mil at Texas you think we can't pay that? Alleva really wanted O to do well so he could take the easy way out. I hope O does well but this could be 1986 all over again.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 6:37 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:36 pm to
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Say what you want but YET YOU have given me ZERO reason to think that the other two could do better than O the next few years...........


Well. Using your logic, hiring me to be LSUs head coach would be defensible because you can't PROVE I wouldn't do as well.
Posted by Lesmilesdoesntfloss
Da boot
Member since Aug 2015
173 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:02 pm to
ShortyRob slayin' 'em
Posted by astrofan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
52 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:17 pm to
He is right. Alleva is in over his head. He needs to be fired before he makes any more hires.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:17 pm to
Lol

Ok
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1165 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:46 pm to
The idiots really come out on this board. They ought to change LSU's nickname to the LSU Bitchers because that is what you all like to do. 1) Fisher won in a week ACC and because of Jamieous Winston 2) Tom Herman lost to Navy and SMU 3) Fedora was Les Miles #2 and yiu all would have had a meltdown over that had they hired him 4) PJ Fkeck is too young and would be eaten alive in the SEC according to some geniuses. 5) some wanted Gindy or Justin Fuentes, but others didn't and Fuentes would have a huge buyout that LSU would have had to pay and many of you all would have had a fit over that. Now Coach 'O' is a disaster. Don't complain about your wives giving you crap. Some you al, have more estrogen in you than them.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37016 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:48 pm to
You sure do bitch a lot about people bitching.
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1165 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:52 pm to
I am just pointing the absurdity of it all. There was no coaching here ire that would have mad the fan bas happy, based on the posts other than Urnan Meyer or Nick Saban or Jim Hatprbaugh and I don't think they would be leaving their respective schools.
Posted by smooth99
Member since Oct 2003
656 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:02 pm to
Your are pointing out the absurdity of people being pissed there wasn't a thorough, national search?

Alrighty.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172080 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:15 pm to
Les roasted Moscona
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 11:27 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17668 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:36 pm to
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quote:
Look I will say there are better coaches that could have gotten a shot, but O is the coach and I hope he goes 10-2 next year...


Wait so 10-2 wasnt good enough for Les miles to keep his job yet if Ed Orgeron goes 10-2 then people should eat crow?
10-2 was considered shite with the amount of talent we have, right?
worth pointing out the last time LSU went had a 10-2 reg season record was 2012.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3583 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:43 pm to
It's not the coaching hire!! It is the fact that no serious search was done. If due diligence is done, several candidates are interviewed and then Orgeron is the best choice, so be it. But that wasn't done!

To believe that the lone interview Friday night sealed the deal and allowed Alleva to tell Herman, "no thank you", is absurd. If that is all that took place then no serious coaching search was done.

The timing of this doesn't make sense either. Why did we have to announce Coach O right now? Other candidates are becoming available as the season ends. Why now? LSU had the biggest head start on every other team as far as who they wanted as a coach but it appears Alleva wanted Coach O all along and this is how it played out.

Some of us are upset at the process, not the hire.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17668 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:00 pm to
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It's not the coaching hire!! It is the fact that no serious search was done. If due diligence is done, several candidates are interviewed and then Orgeron is the best choice, so be it. But that wasn't done!

To believe that the lone interview Friday night sealed the deal and allowed Alleva to tell Herman, "no thank you", is absurd. If that is all that took place then no serious coaching search was done.

The timing of this doesn't make sense either. Why did we have to announce Coach O right now? Other candidates are becoming available as the season ends. Why now? LSU had the biggest head start on every other team as far as who they wanted as a coach but it appears Alleva wanted Coach O all along and this is how it played out.

Some of us are upset at the process, not the hire.
My gut initial response to this is 'but you don't KNOW who all they talked to!'.

I believe they talked to more than just the 'Big 2' and Ed O. But that doesn't matter either.

To your point, if they indeed did talk to more than that then the [valid] issue you have could have been easily resolved with just a little bit of PR and communication. So I can't blame you for feeling this way. It's either true or it could have been avoided easily.

The only difference between you and I is that I don't think it was that bad while you do think it was.
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:12 pm to
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week

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Jamieous

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yiu

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Fkeck

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Gindy


Holy shite. Post less.

ETA:
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Urnan

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Hatprbaugh


Dude. Go to the ER right now. I think you're having a stroke.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 10:16 pm
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