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Hannagriff *and now Moscona* going in dry about Alleva's handling of hire

Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:09 am
Posted by mpar98
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
8034 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:09 am
yikes...comparing Coach O to the hiring of Johnny Jones as being the easy answer. And that he thinks Alleva couldn't close a deal with Herman or Jimbo.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14440 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:10 am to
He's not wrong.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77931 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:12 am to
What bothers me the most is we didn't really seem to do any kind of true search
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:12 am to
He's not a closer. He's a spineless douche.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7505 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:13 am to
Any comment from Hanny or whether Aranda has signed?
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:14 am to
Nothing about Aranda yet.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77292 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:14 am to
He's right, but it is what it is, and in no way do I think CEO will be as bad as JJ...

I'm willing to give CEO an opportunity like I did with Les when he was hired, I was not happy then, but I gave him his opportunity before going negatiger...
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127381 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:14 am to
quote:

comparing Coach O to the hiring of Johnny Jones

This entire town desperately needs to hear this.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9735 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:14 am to
He's 100% right
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:16 am to
Everything he is saying is 100% correct. Alleva is lazy, unprepared and always makes LSU look bad in routine situations. He is killing our brand.
Posted by Fenwick86
Member since May 2007
3515 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

And that he thinks Alleva couldn't close a deal with Herman or Jimbo.


Well neither one of them are here...he doesn't have to think it, it's a fact. Doesn't matter why they aren't here, they just aren't. Joe Alleva showed interest in two candidates outside the program and did not close a deal with either.

Kind of looks like Alleva is not a talented negotiator/communicator and/or some coaches do not want to work with him, given his past history of sucking.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56275 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:18 am to
This was not what I was expecting. Nice to hear
Posted by RagingCajun3195
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2014
2013 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:20 am to
He's not wrong. Alleva seems to not understand that Hermans agents job is to get multiple offers and Allevas job is to finish the deal. A verbal agreement means nothing and Alleva is out of his league. He's spot on.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Doesn't matter why they aren't here, they just aren't


Jimbo wanted too much and Herman wanted Texas so how is either of them not being here his fault exactly? Not expanding the search is on him but not Jimbo and Herman
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54546 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:21 am to
it does have the johnny jones feel to it.
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2538 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

What bothers me the most is we didn't really seem to do any kind of true search


And how is it you know this?
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:22 am to
I wouldnt be surprised if Orgeron does well as HC. That does not mean that this search was handled correctly. Alleva was weak and lazy and did not do any due dilligence. He took the path of least resistance as he always does.

Alleva has mastered Louisiana politics. Hire the Louisiana native sons and keep your job. It doesnt matter how poor the results are, the locals will make excuses for their own.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65681 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:23 am to
can you imagine the meltdown if they gave jimbo $6.5m for 10 years !?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 11:24 am
Posted by StarSaint
lafayette
Member since Nov 2006
7490 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:23 am to
I mean, is he wrong?
Posted by L5UT1ger
Member since Feb 2004
2599 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:24 am to
quote:

in no way do I think CEO will be as bad as JJ..


JJ was more qualified for his job as head basketball coach at LSU than Ed O for football.

I have nothing against Ed O. He tried for the job and got it. It was a pretty amazing feat.

Incompetence goes uphill. Its fairly obvious Joe A is not fit for the job. Whomever decides whether to keep him is next. If they cant see that Joe needs to go, then its him/her/them that needs to go prior to hiring the next AD.
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