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re: Guys you all know how I feel about Miles, but we can't fire him right now

Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29435 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:14 pm to
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No its not. 4 teams out of 126 were able to win at least 9 games every from 2009-2013. That's not misleading at all dumbass.


I can't help it that Ohio State and USC got hit with sanctions and Urban Meyer had chest pains. LSU is a program that belongs in the Top 10 of CFB and Top 5 finishes should be common. I'm sure you can cherry pick a similar stat for Mack Brown during his tenure.

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Then you're a fricking dumbass. The best 10 years stretch in lsu history isn't good enough for you. As of you've done anything to actually help lsu football be better.


As a fan and alum, I don't do anything to make it better, correct. But the "10 best years" are worse than the "5 best years", which were under Saban. I realize the potential of this program. This shite ain't cutting it.
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2453 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:15 pm to
miles had 6 years at LSU (with it being stocked by Saban)

So Saban was recruiting for LSU while he was the Miami coach? How nice of him, I'll send him a Christmas card in thanks.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6255 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:16 pm to
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What did I say that is defending the loss


That's not the point. Its the same thing over and over. Defending the coach he is now by using the argument of the coach he used to be. He's been a downhill slide since 2011, and until just now, you and bitchdaddy cry and fricking whine whenever somebody critiques him. You're doing it in this thread.

For the record, I think he's done great things for LSU, as a coach and as a person. But, he has been wasting talent for far too long.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:17 pm to
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Saban had not been able to build the program to the point where we could unexpectedly loser our QB a year earlier than expected 


Holy shite. Saban walked into a program chocked full of nfl talent. His first team had 13 future nfl players and numerous players that were some of the best ever at their positions.
Rohan Davey
Josh Reed
Bradie James
Trev Faulk
Dominak DAVIS
Devery Henderson
Eddie Royal
Labrandon Toefield
Chad Lavalais
Just to name a few.

This notion that Saban walked into a talentless team is such bullshite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:18 pm to
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He's been a downhill slide since 2011, and until just now, you and bitchdaddy cry and fricking whine whenever somebody critiques him. You're doing it in this thread. 


Hey im at every lsu game of you want to meet up for drinks, boy.

Also since 2011 we have finished top 15 2 of the 3 years. Facts and shite dumb frick.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6255 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:19 pm to
You're a fricking joke. Boy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Also since 2011 we have finished top 15 2 of the 3 years.

so finishing top 15, 67% of the time is your barometer for success ?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42142 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:20 pm to
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This notion that Saban walked into a talentless team is such bullshite.


Saban was great for lsu. I always give him credit for that. But the deifying by lsu fans even 11 years since he's been gone is a little much. SFP would never say a critical thing about him but we get criticized for defending the guy that coaches our school. It's pretty hilarious at this point.

Bama fans criticize saban more than some lsu fans. Some of the lsu fans make excuses for saban like they are Bama fans
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:21 pm to
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But the "10 best years" are worse than the "5 best years", which were under Saba


Holy shite your dumb.

2000-4 losses
2001-3 losses
2002-5 losses
2003-1 loss
2004-3 losses
How the frick is that better than Miles' 10 years? It's not

It's a shame lsu can't win the west with 3 sec losses like 2001.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:22 pm to
After losing to Bama, the team has pretty much given up. There is really nothing to play for. No SEC championship and no national title hopes. We set our sights high to compete for titles and one loss diminishes the rest of the season. Most other teams are happy to make a bowl game, not us. I have a huge problem with the team being flat and not finishing the season off strong. With this attitude, we will probably lose our bowl game regardless of who we play. I blame both the coaches and the players. Mostly the coaches because they can control who plays in the game or not. Bench any player not giving 100% out there.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42142 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:22 pm to
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It's a shame lsu can't win the west with 3 sec losses like 2001.


The state of the SEC is largely ignored by many lsu fans when evaluating past and present.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:23 pm to
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SFP would never say a critical thing about him

not true

saban was showing some structural problems in 2004 that we never got to see if he'd correct (but based on later behavior, i presume he would have). his defense was too predictable and his offense was too conservative (esp with a lead)
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:24 pm to
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finishing top 15, 67% of the time is your barometer for success ?





Finishing in the top 15 isn't a shite year by any stretch. The entitlement lsu fans show when they shite on top 15 finishes just goes to show how far from reality they are. There isn't a program in cfb that would shite on a 10 years run with 8 top 15 finishes and 6 top 10 finishes.not even bama would want to get rid of that coach
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71881 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:25 pm to
I think most just realize that LSU should be consistently in the top 2-3 in the SEC when you consider all the factors. I get that playing Bama every year is tough, and some other teams have "up" years too, like AU. But at the end of the day LSU and Bama recruit at he highest levels. Occasionally ole miss pays enough kids, but they aren't consistent like LSU.

So the state of the SEC should be due to LSU being so good. We should be part of the problem for other schools. And LSU has been, don't get me wrong. But things are different now, unfortunately. At least IMO.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:25 pm to
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The state of the SEC is largely ignored by many lsu fans when evaluating past and present.

Florida and Tennessee were national powers in those days. UGA was coming around under Richt

you can argue the west, but the SEC was loaded then, too
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6255 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:26 pm to
We get it. You like failure. It's cool.

Now, your response is to post that tired old same bullshite "stats" you always do, you predictable frick.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71881 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:26 pm to
Dude, it's not entitlement. Every fricking fan wants their team to be very good. Not just good enough. And it's not just LSU fans for fricks sake.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42142 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:26 pm to
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we never got to see if he'd correct (but based on later behavior, i presume he would have). his defense was too predictable and his offense was too conservative (esp with a lead)


You seem very certain that saban would have been better at lsu than miles was '05-'07 (34-6) though. How do you know he would have made the changes needed?



Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215992 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:27 pm to
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But the "10 best years" are worse than the "5 best years", which were under Saban.


Wow. Gotta disagree here...Saban Put LSU on the national landscape while he was here... And Miles has done a good job keeping it going... But if LSU losses its next three...Heads need to roll..But they won't...If LSU goes 8-4 again next year things need to change...
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:27 pm to
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The state of the SEC is largely ignored by many lsu fans when evaluating past and present.






Exactly. They tout Saban's 3 loss sec title and shite on Miles 2011 sec title. It's a shame Miles can't coach in a sec where 3 conference losses will win you the west.
It's also laughable how they think Saban was more successful wheb he lost less than 3 games 1 time. He finished top 15 twice playing in a far worse sec than Miles plays in.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 2:28 pm
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