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re: Guys you all know how I feel about Miles, but we can't fire him right now
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:27 pm to seinfeldtiger
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:27 pm to seinfeldtiger
Alleva needs to be on whatever bus out of town leaves first!
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Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you can argue the west, but the SEC was loaded then, too
3 loss champs were the norm back then
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and his offense was too conservative (esp with a lead)
That season featured a ton of games where we had to come from behind in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:29 pm to dukke v
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But if LSU losses its next three...Heads need to roll..But they won't...If LSU goes 8-4 again next year things need to change...
If If we lose out Miles needs to go because he has lost this team and we have most coming back.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:29 pm to BeeFense5
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How do you know he would have made the changes needed?
have you seen what he did at Bama?
he's constantly changing and innovating. it's what saban does. he's proactive and attacks. he looks for opponents and finds weaknesses. he adjusts his schemes. he hires new OCs and tries new things.
miles has the opposite mindset. miles believes he has the perfect system and we just need to perfect it in execution and we will win. that's why we don't change. that's why we have the same issues every year. that's why sometimes it's great and sometimes it's like the past 2 weeks
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:31 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Who shits on LSUs 2011 conference title? Are you serious? You just made that up to support your argument. Come on man, you're better than this!
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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have you seen what he did at Bama?
Yes I did. But to ignore the fact that he is a different coach there than he was at lsu before he failed in the nfl is rose colored revisionist history by you.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:32 pm to cas4t
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Dude, it's not entitlement. Every fricking fan wants their team to be very good. Not just good enough. And it's not just LSU fans for fricks s
It's entitlement when having a coach with one of the best win % in sec history and the #1 ooc win % in sec history ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
Since Miles was hired no program has beatenmore ranked teams
Since Miles was hired no program has been ranked in the top 25 more weeks.
AND THIS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
Do you not understand how stupid our fans look when they say THE BEST 10 YEAR STRETCH EVER isn't good enough?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:32 pm to cas4t
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Who shits on LSUs 2011 conference title? Are you serious? You just made that up to support your argument.
To be fair SFP does
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
Miles hired his buddies. Saban didn't give a shite what Kiffin's perception was. He recognized his offensive coaching talent and went and got him. Miles is seemingly loyal to a fault. Hay could be a stretch, but it's still Sunday.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he's constantly changing and innovating. it's what saban does. he's proactive and attacks. he looks for opponents and finds weaknesses. he adjusts his schemes. he hires new OCs and tries new things.
It honestly did not look that way based on his OC hires until 2014. He seemed to have more influence on the offense before then. McElwain was a perfect example.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:33 pm to cas4t
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Miles is seemingly loyal to a fault.
until he feels he needs a new contract extension
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:33 pm to cas4t
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Who shits on LSUs 2011 conference title? Are you serious? You just made that up to support your argument. Come on man, you're better than this!
Are you kidding? Numerous people shite on lsu's 2011 season. Our 2011 season is often used as a reason to fire miles. Poster were saying Miles should be fired before the game was over.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:34 pm to c on z
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honestly did not look that way based on his OC hires until 2014. He seemed to have more influence on the offense before then. McElwain was a perfect example.
True.
Shows you that SFP would rather defend bama's coach than support his own supposed favorite team
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:34 pm to cas4t
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Saban didn't give a shite what Kiffin's perception was.
As long as Saban can control his media access, perception may be irrelevant.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188
So do you think Miles should stay? That's the elephant in the room here. Do you think that stretch of 10 years warrants keeping his job for X number of years?
Does that 10 year stretch out weigh the other obvious deficiencies? Clock management, playing down to opponents, horrific offenses, etc? Because that is what is happening TODAY. The last 10 years were wonderful, but it is not 2007.
You can hold on to your nostalgia for a while, but at the end of the day, his job isn't about even "what have you done for me lately". It's "what are you doing RIGHT NOW".
Does that 10 year stretch out weigh the other obvious deficiencies? Clock management, playing down to opponents, horrific offenses, etc? Because that is what is happening TODAY. The last 10 years were wonderful, but it is not 2007.
You can hold on to your nostalgia for a while, but at the end of the day, his job isn't about even "what have you done for me lately". It's "what are you doing RIGHT NOW".
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:35 pm to cas4t
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Miles hired his buddies. Saban didn't give a shite what Kiffin's perception was. He recognized his offensive coaching talent and went and got him. Miles is seemingly loyal to a fault. Hay could be a stretch, but it's still Sunday
What's sad is that that was once something that made Miles great. He hired good assistance. It's like he believes in our scheme so much that he feels we Wil impose our will on everyone and it's just not that way anymore.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188
look at the team now. look at their preparation, their scheme. What's the point in talking about the record 10 years ago. Do you think the current team is meeting their expectations?
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:36 pm to c on z
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It honestly did not look that way based on his OC hires until 2014
you do remember he hired major applewhite at OC, right?
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He seemed to have more influence on the offense before then. McElwain was a perfect example.
mcelwain installed a lot of new looks, especially single back looks and pistol. they also changed their running attack based on RBs (went less zone with ingram to power/man with trent). that is all mcelwain
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:37 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It sounds like you and I agree more than it seems. Because I agree with this post. Maybe Miles recognizes this and will make some big changes this offseason. Peveto for sure needs to be replaced. And likely Cam too, unfortunately. But more importantly, Miles needs to recognize his inability to run an offense. He's not an OC. He's a big picture guy. Hopefully he sees this now.
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