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re: Guilbeau: Coaches Must Be On Drugs...Or Just Stupid

Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:14 am to
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Ironically I was just forwarded a message about Pellini's comment to the effect that you could pick any fan out of Tiger Stadium on a Saturday night and they could coach the Tigers better than Miles.


Post is please. Did he say that directly?

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You don't actually believe that professionals like Jimbo and Pellini are stupid enough to make comments like that to a media outlet just so you have a link do you?


So then they didn't actually say it? You made it up? You lied? tsk tsk tsk

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There are hundreds of threads on the comments made by these two about Miles.

Then you will be hapy to supply them. I want direct quotes. I want them to be quoted exactly on what you posted or admit that you lied.


Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113205 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:14 am to
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- but what about when it was 30-17? Don't you think it was time for Shep to start getting some serious touches after that?


Good point, but Les Miles is too ignorant to understand that Butch Davis made Les his bitch in the all important 2nd half...Like the other poster said, "SOS" from Les.

After 2 seasons of horrible coaching & not competing for the SECCG, you'd think that Les would've wanted to make a statement against NC. Les is just not a good enough coach to do that.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:18 am to
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Good point, but Les Miles is too ignorant


Who won the game?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:20 am to
" Pellini and Jimbo think our coach is an idiot."

Still waiting for direct quotes verufying this.
When, where did either of them say, "Les Miles is an idiot"?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:21 am to
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And being laughed at by the national media

More so then Ole Miss?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:23 am to
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Maybe they figured the chances of a 97-yd TD pass were 0 in a million. Um, make that 1 in a million. Anyway, maybe the man-to-man was based on assumptions that a big play from Yates was unlikely?


Oh so thats why they had first time players in man-to-man and Patrick Peterson, the best athlete in college football and best d back, ON THE BENCH!!!
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:27 am to
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Then you will be hapy to supply them. I want direct quotes. I want them to be quoted exactly on what you posted or admit that you lied.



If you are so interested, you go look them up.

Are you paid by the Athletic Department to get on here to try to do damage control? Does it pay well? Is there a fee per post, or is it an hourly rate? How does that work?


Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113205 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:29 am to
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Who won the game?


what coaching staff looked a lot better in the 2nd half?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:29 am to
Ole Miss doesn't have LSU talent, but has managed to beat them twice in a row, go figure!
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:31 am to
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Instead, LSU went three and out on its first three possessions of the second half


This is incorrect. The first possession of the second half consisted of 2 first downs prior to the third series in which Ridley coughed it up.

Otherwise, Guilbeau makes many good points in a strung out inelegant manner. That article was hard to read and could have been half that length and said the same thing. Does this guy get paid per word or something, or maybe he has to fill up a column qouta?

He is right about the coaches decision and thinking, but he is poor in his profession also, so maybe someone should call for his job also.
Posted by GradLSU99
Tiger livin' up in Rocky Top
Member since Aug 2006
178 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:42 am to
Ok here is the point. Guilbeau is right to an extent. The whole point is, and if you think about it I'm right, out of all the major programs in the country we had the most to prove that we were still a legitimate power. And this is all the intangibles, from coaching to talent. The whole knock on this coaching staff is the fact that we dont go for the kill. When we have our foot on peoples throats, we just let it sit there and delay the execution until the cavalry arrives, like in some cheesy Hollywood movie. I said this in another post, I never had a problem with Spurrier back when he was with Florida. They played the whole 60 minutes and never put the foot off the accelerator. People bashed him for being unsportsmanlike, but he empowered his players to always stay aggressive and to never quit. Even if they were up 30 with 10 minutes left in the game, they were playing like it was a close game. These days you got to have that mentality. Last years Moo State game should've been a perfect lesson for Miles and the coaching staff to learn from. I would've hated seeing PP or RS or RR get hurt up by 20, but UNC was not quiting, even though they seemed out of it. When that 97 yrd touchdown happened, that should've been the wakeup call they needed to crank the engine back up, but you all know that its hard to get that competitive engine revved back up after it has been turned off.
If it is Crowton's fault that we are all of a sudden going conservative and sitting back on offense, then fire his arse but Miles is the CEO of the program, and the players and the coaches take the cues from him. If he feels its in the bag, he is going to alert the coaches to do the same and thus it filters down to the players. Throwing his players and then the coaches under the bus after every game is getting old. If you want something done, then by gosh make it so.
Miles just seems he doesn't have what it takes to do it at this high of a level. Him and Houston Nutt are pretty much twins. They do their best work when they are out gunned and out talented.
I dont know how many times I have said this, but hopefully this will FINALLY be the lesson they needed to learn to get things turned around. Stay behind the boys through all of this and hope talent will rule at the end of the day and not the coaching.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 10:55 am
Posted by latiger89
Member since Sep 2006
448 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:51 am to
For those of you who don't understand coaching, it is the coaches job to make sure his team is prepared. A prepared team does not make stupid mistakes. Yes, the coaches are 80% of the problem.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85693 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:53 am to
Shepard did touch the ball in the second half. He got sniped and tackled himself. Now we are leading and trying to run the clock out with our rb. Rs is a fricking wr. You really want to run the clock out with him? The problem I saw was the discipline and the stupid penalties killing drives. The playing calling was super conservative. I'll give him that. Running up the middle on 3rd and 8 when it's 30-17 is fricking baffling.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 10:55 am to
For those of you who don't understand coaching, it is the coaches job to make sure his team is prepared. A prepared team does not make stupid mistakes. Yes, the coaches are 80% of the problem.

I agree.

Posted by DandyD
Pensacola, Fl
Member since Jan 2005
1252 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:21 am to
GG tells it like it is. Tigers are paying too much money for coaches who DUH..aren't brillant. Think that all of the best coaches left after the first year, or asap. The grapevine always said that they saw the handwriting on the wall. It is going to take a lot of luck for us to be a winner.
Posted by bayoubaer
BRLA
Member since Sep 2009
553 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:42 am to
nycajun is a moran
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:56 am to
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Would he have been just as scathing if Shepard or Peterson had played the entire second half and suffered a torn ACL


It's shite like this comment that make the Rant unbearable sometimes.

I have been a Miles sympathizer in the past. I just can't do it anymore. If you can't see what is wrong with this man and this team you just really aren't paying attention or just don't want to see it. There are always a couple people on here that support him, but I can literally find zero people in real life that are still on his wagon. I really wish I could find one so I could assess whether or not they actually know anything about football.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:07 pm to
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Would he have been just as scathing if Shepard or Peterson had played the entire second half and suffered a torn ACL

It's shite like this comment that make the Rant unbearable sometimes


Once again, for those who start reacting before they're done reading (or thinking). I wasn't offering an opinion on whether it was good strategy (or strategery, if you're so inclined) to sit number 7 and number 10 for much of the second half. I tend to agree that at some point late in the 3rd quarter or midway in the 4th, putting them (and other starters) back in probably should have been done. But I'm just a dumb lawyer, not a brilliant football mind like most of the posters here. My point was that regardless of what they did, Guilbeau and his amen chorus on this board would find a way to bash the coaching staff for the decision if the outcome and the manner of achieving it wasn't to their liking (and, in Gilbeau's case, even if it was).
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:09 pm to
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Are you paid by the Athletic Department to get on here to try to do damage control? Does it pay well? Is there a fee per post, or is it an hourly rate? How does that work?


You have no answer. You have no proof. Yu have no evidence. So you attack me personally? You made a flat statement. I'm just asking that you man up and back it up. Or admit that you lied. It's that simple.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:10 pm to
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Ole Miss doesn't have LSU talent, but has managed to beat them twice in a row, go figure!


They did that last Saturday? Get a clue. Live in today.
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