re: Great article about depth issues..orgeron is definitely facing a challenge..

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How does one build a championship program when his only marketable quality

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His most marketable quality throughout his career has been his ability to recruit. That seems like the ideal quality for rebuilding. Even though he didn't get to stick around at Ole Miss long enough to realize the benefits, Orgeron's recruiting is what gave Houston Nutt the talent available to win a lot in his first couple of years at Ole Miss.

Even if he repeats exactly what he did at Ole Miss, he'll still have helped fix what was a badly broken program by leaving a stable of talent for his replacement.

I wasn't encouraged the other night, but being objective, we can't compete with 4 healthy dlinemen. We get wins the next few games and get some of the injured, suspended back, AND key gets in shape...you will see a different defense.

Numbers don't lie. CEO needs to finish this cycle strong and of course next year with a top-5 class.
As fans we can stew about the problem, or we can cheer on our Tigers and enjoy watching them FIX the problem. Hammer down Saturday night for 60 mins with a big bounce back game.

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The 2011 team LSU had 10 starters who were either Freshman or Sophomores, It's weird in the past 17 years I haven't heard anyone blaming the lack of depth as a reason for losing and now it is a major issue even thought our starting Oline and Dline is mostly Seniors and Juniors

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2011 team had just about all of the starters returning on the offensive line from the year before of which 4 were either juniors or seniors....5 returners if you count T-Bob (that was big) Right now we have 3 returning starters

You also had 2 senior QB's (we have 1 now and the rest are either McMillan and 2 true freshmen)

on the DL you had a very deep corps...but I'll grant you many of them were either freshmen or RS soph ( I think we will be OK going forward with Lawrence returning along with LaCouture and Key who is a tweener....we need Alexander back...and fast)

Starting LB's were 2 seniors and a junior ( Minter, Hatcher, Baker) You can't discount this...these guys had played for a while. Right now we have White (SO) and Alexander (SR)

DB's had Claiborne (JR), Taylor(SR) and Mathieu(SO) and Reid,a (RS SO) with Brooks (SR), Loston(SO) and Simon(SO) backing up....right now we are Freshman heavy this is a problem

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You can't convince me that all of these issues that led to players transferring came out of the blue.

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Of course he probably could see a couple of guys leaving but 5? You think he saw tehuma leaving?but what is he suppose to do? Go sign free agents? Jesus people like there's literally nothing he could have done. It was too late in the recruiting game to fix it for this season.

Just for reference last year we were extremely thin at linebacker and what did we do in the recruiting class? Got linebackers. We have a good bit of Dlinemen for next season. We have only 3 offensive lineman so far but it's only September. We still have time to get more guys.

I'm just as pissed as you guys are that we lost by fricking 30 to state. But I also understand that it's still early in the season and this team will get better and they have the talent to get better.

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It's his job to anticipate things like that. Should've been in the binder.

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We don't know what was in "the binder". Why does everyone harp on that, every prospective coach presents with one. Coaches present potential recruits with "binders" as well. Saban started that years ago.

He probably knew that when he presented it and probably anticipated some attrition ( transfers/ dismissals ).

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You literally bash O in every single post of yours. Tell me, do you work? You hang out here all day.

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You've created two alters and have over 500 posts in less than a month on this alter alone. You are useless.

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O wasn't hired to rebuild. He was hired to maintain. It's how everyone justified hiring a proven loser.

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He was hired to maintain the 2017 commits and try to avoid a mass exodus of recruits, which he largely did. Our problem is by the end of the year, probably all of those recruits (except Narcisse) will have had to play significant snaps

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I just want to know where were the bullshite articles like this leading up to the season and after the first two (2) games when it was all lollipops, unicorns and rainbows. The advocate, coaching staff, etc. - no one made mention of these issues and it's now convenient that they are raised. I am not saying that there weren't people on here talking about concerns on both sides of the line, bit it sure wasn't being reported to any great extent.

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If you bothered to pay the slightest bit of attention to the news surrounding the program you would have known the depth issues. It was no secret.

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We don't know what was in "the binder". Why does everyone harp on that, every prospective coach presents with one. Coaches present potential recruits with "binders" as well. Saban started that years ago.

He probably knew that when he presented it and probably anticipated some attrition ( transfers/ dismissals ).

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Because Alleva directly referenced the binder as a reason for hiring O, and I've never heard an AD say that.

And it sounds ridiculous as is. I think everyone knows that coaches will present binders, informations, plans...but to specifically mention the binder because, you know, mentioning O's "winning resume," "hard fought victories," "program rebuilding," doesn't work because there isn't any evidence of any of that.

O's resume sucks, so the binder as reference to the main reason he was hired is a ridiculous attempt at justification. The binder is all he had, hence Alleva's reference.

All said, it's ok to harp on the binder when it's literally the only benefit you can mention about O in the hiring process. "He brought a binder!"