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re: Glad to see this board has wised up and come to its senses.

Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1585 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:47 pm to
If 8-9 wins is your ceiling with the odd appearance in the SECCG, then yeah BK is your man for the long haul. If competing and winning the NC is your primary concern, then you’d be better off with someone else. Kelly is consistently shown himself to be a dud in the FBS. His record against top competition speaks for itself.
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1646 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:49 pm to
Jack Bech was just named as a Biletnikoff Semifinalist. He was one of the dudes O left BK in this supposed "dumpster fire." Good job letting that one get away, BK! But let's keep on blaming O.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25443 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:13 pm to
DV #73
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Jack Bech was just named as a Biletnikoff Semifinalist. He was one of the dudes O left BK in this supposed "dumpster fire." Good job letting that one get away, BK! But let's keep on blaming O.


lol frick Jack Bech.

He didn’t plate because he wasn’t good enough to get time. He transfered and still didn’t play because he wasn’t good enough.

Finally he’s good enough coincidently then year that the Big 12 is 50% G5 teams and the worst teams in the Pac 12.


Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31155 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:21 pm to
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It's not his fault that Year 3 is behind schedule


Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
5132 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:21 pm to
Wow. Look at the downvotes
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1646 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:40 pm to
On a team that included Malik Nabers, Brain Thomas, Kayshon Boutte, and Trey Palmer...all NFL dudes. He lead the team in receptions and was third in yards as a true freshman...in the SEC. Not saying he is better than those dudes, but also hard to say "he didn't plate because he wasn't good enough." What happened between his freshman and sophmore year that made him not good enough? BK!
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:46 pm to
It's all Coach O's fault. Really it is. We have no RB threat other than Durham, the WR's lack speed, run poor routes and have hands of stone. Our best DB is Major Burns because no one can beat him out. Our OL and DL lack quality depth. There is no capable backup to Nussmeier. The coaching staff are not miracle workers.

Help is on the way in 2025. Be patient baws. Give BK 3 years to turn this pirogue into a battleship. Geaux Tigahs!
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
627 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:47 pm to
bullshite!! Stop blaming this debacle on Coach O! BK is in his 3rd year and has had the benefit of the portal. It's something no other LSU coach has had. BTW BK did better in his first season when he had those 38 players, so many of you like to reference, than he did in the next 2 seasons!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:51 pm to
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but also hard to say "he didn't plate because he wasn't good enough." What happened between his freshman and sophmore year that made him not good enough? BK!


He wasn’t good enough to play over all the guys who i listed who played.

Same reason he didn’t play last year at TCU.

Dude didn’t want to wait around and develop. Went to TCU and had to wait around and develop.



Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107108 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Next time I change management jobs, am paid $10M and inherit a mess, I sure hope that my new employer allows me to blame my predecessor three (3) years later.


This technique is also used in politics.
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1646 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:56 pm to
Disagree! He was playing right up there with Nabers and BT as a true freshman. He saw one year of the bum arse bitch that is BK and said, deuces! This dude is a clown. Went to TCU, took a year to learn the system and now he is a semi-finalist for the best WR in all of the land.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12893 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:57 pm to
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the best comment I saw on the board was LSU needs to implement the Big Cat drill to fix it


To busy wearing those bras that monitor their heart rate.
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1646 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:02 pm to
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It's all Coach O's fault. Really it is. We have no RB threat other than Durham, the WR's lack speed, run poor routes and have hands of stone


You do realize the WRs the O left were Boutte, Nabers, Brian Thomas, Jaray Jenkins, and Jack Bech. So literally every single one of the WRs that lack speed, run poor routes, and have hands of stone are all BK's dudes...not O's. O's WRs are in the ROY convo, emerging as the Patriots WR1, and a semi-finalist for the Biletnikoff. Not O's fault, it really isn't.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:07 pm to
Dude got made he wasn’t getting targets as a sophmore and still didn’t get targets as a JR.

Meanwhile the 2 WR who passed him up are in the NFL balling.
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1646 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:13 pm to
Again, never said he was better than those two studs. But I have a hard time believing he would go from leading a team in receptions as a freshman, a team that has those two studs and Boutte...to a Bilentnikoff semifinalist as a senior but magically lost his talent his sophomore year. He was mad because BK was underutilizing him. His junior year, new system new place. Wasn't established. Not all that surprising. In this very thread people are bitching about our WRs. A Bilentnikoff finalist couldn't help? BK F'ed that up!
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:20 pm to
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Again, never said he was better than those two studs. But I have a hard time believing he would go from leading a team in receptions as a freshman, a team that has those two studs and Boutte...to a Bilentnikoff semifinalist as a senior but magically lost his talent his sophomore year.


He had 43 receptions in 2021. Let’s not act like “leading the team in receptions” meant he had an objectively good year.

He was in the mix with Boutte, Jenkins, Nabers and Thomas and of those 5 he was 3rd in yards, 4th in TDs and 5th in Yards per reception.

The fact that other players made a jump between their Fr and Sophmore year isn’t crazy. Especially when those players are in the NFL and Bech is just now having a good season.

Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1646 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:39 pm to
I agree with you there especially when those dudes are Nabers and Brian Thomas and with how bad we were in 2021. But to drop from 43 to 18 suggests more of scheme than a void of talent especially when senior year is 56 for 982 and 9 TDs with games to be played.

My mission here is not to put Bech on a pedestal. My mission is to change this silly narrative that BK took over a dumpster fire that was void of talent. Maybe you are right and Bech wasn't talented enough to play here. But a Bilentnikoff semi-finalist not being talented enough to play on a roster void of talent like BK loyalist want us to believe makes no sense. A roster so talented that Bilentnikoff semi-finalist has to transfer away does help my narrative. BK did not inherit a dumpster fire! It had three stud NFL WRs and a Bilentnikoff semi-finalist on there.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:44 pm to
for starters: Nabers breaks out. He get 72 receptions. They are still trying to get Boutte the Ball. awe end up having an actual threat at TE which we didn’t in 2021.

So after that there aren’t that many receptions to go around and he’s in a group with Thomas, Jenkins, And Lacey. it’s not insane to see him fall behind.

and then last year he caught 12 balls.

You’re arguing he was so good as a freshmen but needed a year to learn TCU’s system as a JR?
For the first 3 years of his career he wasn’t a Biletnikoff Semifinalist. He wasn’t close.

That’s across 3 different coaches.
Ultimately, he probably got better and the competition got worse.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 2:47 pm
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
1299 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:48 pm to
Come on man, BK hired those coaches so yeah its his fault. It's fixed now I just hope he realizes we have to use the portal this year to be competitive next year. Fans don't want to wait til 26-27 to have a chance to win the SEC, that's unacceptable
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