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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:56 pm to Howyouluhdat
quote:first, arguing with win/loss records. second, they're not "mine" genius. they're just facts. and the case is getting worse for pm, not better. but don't mention that at all
You just can't comprehend somebody else arguing your win/loss records against you
quote:i asked you to prove your position. you can't. i asked you to take a poll. you didn't. you just spouted some dumb crap and tried to pass it off as authoritative. being at the highest, most elite level for longer is harder than making it once or twice and winning once. i'm sorry you don't understand that. you're saying that in the last decade, arizona has been a better baseball program than fsu. that is just plain stupid. fsu has 4 cws appearances. ariz has just 2. even if fsu goes 0-2 this time around, they are still clearly a better program.
Anybody that thinks playing more games and losing is better vs playing less games and winning is a special human being
over the last decade, has ariz been better than lsu? ariz has a nc and lsu doesn't.
quote:you are factually wrong yet again. in the last 10 seasons, they have been an equal number of times or more yet, have a lesser investment in the sport. they are doing more with less. you're not even arguing with facts. you're just saying what happened didn't really happen. no wonder you're confused.
They have all been to the CWS less in that time frame but won more correct?
quote:quintessential cherry picking. lsu is equaled or surpassed in cws wins, number of appearances, national championships over the last decade and the case is getting WORSE. pm's nc is more than a decade old now. you are sad.
LSU is #2 in win % since 2009
quote:where are the results of your poll?
You just don't like facts going against your argument
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:01 pm to bfniii
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quintessential cherry picking. lsu is equaled or surpassed in cws wins, number of appearances, national championships over the last decade and the case is getting WORSE. pm's nc is more than a decade old now. you are sad.
Every argument to be had is cherry picking to a degree. CPM has had a lot of really good years here and his overall stats speak for themselves. The last two years have been a step backwards for sure. I for one tend to think it’s less of a coach issue and more of an injury / bad luck issue. If things continue down the same path next season then his overall performance will need to be evaluated but for the time being I don’t like trying to downplay his accomplishments after two seasons of terrible injuries.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:26 pm to 0
The fricker has no fire left. Doesn't show up for mid-week games. Spews bullshite. Collecting a check.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:42 pm to bfniii
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this is amazing. i have consistently supported my assertions with objective substantiation, i.e. facts. then you pipe in with some random, subjective, ill informed statement and call me retarded.
Wow..
It’s almost like this is some of you frickers’ first ‘I want the ______ coach fired and I want him fired NOW!!!’ threads
It’s idiots arguing with idiots. 75% of this board don’t know shite about baseball nor do they know what it takes to build/sustain a successful D1 program... frick, most of the people here think that ‘successful’ equals ONLY championships, and it’s fricking sad
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:09 pm to 0
quote:that's why i covered 3 metrics over a decade in relation to investment to the sport; roi. that's about as broad and sufficient as you can get in a sport with a robust postseason tournament and including the specificity of the cws to baseball
Every argument to be had is cherry picking to a degree
quote:debatable and subjective. i am comparing ceteris parabis results. not vague assertions like "fsu sucks" and "who else are you going to get" and "lsu foreverrrrr"
CPM has had a lot of really good years
quote:i totally agree with this. there are several programs over the last decade that have equal or superior cws results despite a lesser investment in the sport. that is neither controversial nor subjective. well, at least for reasonable, unbiased people
his overall stats speak for themselves
quote:even if that did explain this season, it doesn't explain the last decade
I for one tend to think it’s less of a coach issue and more of an injury / bad luck issue
quote:and this is the misunderstanding that i have with pm bots. i am not downplaying anything. i am posting facts. they are what they are. they draw their own conclusions
I don’t like trying to downplay his accomplishments
quote:i'm looking at a decade. not injuries to a few pitchers in one season
after two seasons of terrible injuries
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:24 pm to Mr. Hangover
quote:i am posting facts. facts you can check yourself
It’s idiots arguing with idiots
quote:the facts that i am posting don't require knowing every possible thing about every single program in america. moreover, these facts don't require being an experienced head coach. it is comparing the relative results of programs that have made the cws over the last decade.
75% of this board don’t know shite about baseball nor do they know what it takes to build/sustain a successful D1 program
it has been astonishing to watch this issue evolve over the last 3 years or so. there is a group of people who absolutely cannot deal with these facts and spend an inordinate amount of time twisting themselves into pretzels either making excuses or just denying the reality of them and then calling me names or saying i'm not an lsu fan. wow
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:37 pm to bfniii
It’s weird...but if FSU wins the whole thing...we will have been knocked out of the tourney by 4 national champions in very recent times...Coastal, OSU, UF, and FSU.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:16 pm to Nix to Twillie
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No idea, but I trust Woody if it comes to that.
I don't think it will come to that, but if it does, like you, I trust Woody.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:19 pm to COTiger
LSU doesn't want to spend money on a buyout....
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:04 pm to bfniii
quote:
and the case is getting worse for pm, not better
His win/loss record doesn’t change if he doesn’t make it there retard.
quote:
asked you to prove your position.
It’s been proven multiple times in multiple threads. Just read.
quote:
. i asked you to take a poll. you
didn't
Don’t need to. Your downvotes speak for themselves every time you post
quote:
being at the highest, most elite level for longer is harder than making it once or twice and winning once.
No shite Sherlock. PM first CWS was in 2008 and latest in 2017. Anything else?
quote:
you're saying that in the last decade, arizona has been a better baseball program than fsu
No but LSU has been better than both
quote:
you are factually wrong yet again.
So your saying UCLA,OSU,UVA haven’t been to the CWS less than LSU since 2009? UVA has the same amount. OSU & UCLA both have less so no I’m not factually wrong. Do you know what a fact is?
quote:
you're just saying what happened didn't really happen. no wonder you're confused.
So you are lying again awesome
quote:
quintessential cherry picking. lsu is equaled or surpassed in cws wins, number of appearances, national championships over the last decade and the case is getting WORSE. pm's nc is more than a decade old now. you are sad.
I could go back to 2008 but I choose not to so no it’s not cherry picking
quote:
where are the results of your poll?
Don’t need one. You have proven to be a liar on multiple occasions. Wear it like a man
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:15 pm to tigers1956
quote:
LSU doesn't want to spend money on a buyout....
Some deep pocket boosters can handle that if that's what Woody wants.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:19 pm to Tiger1991
Get the Michigan coach ASAP..
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:29 pm to jman
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Get the Michigan coach ASAP..
2013 29-27
2014 30-29
2015 39-25 *Won Big 10
2016 36-21
2017 42-17
2018 33-21
2019
47-20 overall
14-12 away
Overall head coaching record 326-258
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:53 pm to LSUJML
Because I like him and he is a really nice person.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:56 pm to LSUJML
They will win the national championship and he is at Michigan dumb arse. imagine what he could do at LSU. And he help build Vanderbilt.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:05 pm to jman
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And he help build Vanderbilt.
He was at Vandy 2003-2009
2004 Supers
2006 Regional
2007 SEC / SEC Tourney / Regional
2008 Regional
2009 Regional
Vandy won the SEC & CWS in 2011, as their recruiting coordinator he obviously had a hand in this
I’m just not sure he’s a SEC HC
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:46 pm to LSUJML
Personally if LSU were to make a move I would take Tony Vitello from Tennessee. He built the TCU teams that went to multiple CWS appearances and Arkansas the last couple of years he had a big hand in. Tennessee took a step forward this year.
Good news is he will be available after next year too but at some point these college baseball coaches get established where they are and if they think they can get to the top level there it’s tough to get them to leave to come to the only college baseball program in America that would even think about getting rid of a coach with CPM’s resume.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to be like that but it is the only place that would think like this. Makes it hard to leave a place where you have job security for 10 more years. LSU will fire you after 5 years because you don’t win enough in Omaha. Not in the regular season not in the postseason but Omaha specifically.
Good news is he will be available after next year too but at some point these college baseball coaches get established where they are and if they think they can get to the top level there it’s tough to get them to leave to come to the only college baseball program in America that would even think about getting rid of a coach with CPM’s resume.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to be like that but it is the only place that would think like this. Makes it hard to leave a place where you have job security for 10 more years. LSU will fire you after 5 years because you don’t win enough in Omaha. Not in the regular season not in the postseason but Omaha specifically.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:53 pm to BasilBogomil
Won a natty and recruits #1 talent in the country for starters.
Our fans suck.
Our fans suck.
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