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re: Give one reason paul should be retained for next season.

Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:02 pm to
He wasn't at bat much.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:56 pm to
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You just can't comprehend somebody else arguing your win/loss records against you
first, arguing with win/loss records. second, they're not "mine" genius. they're just facts. and the case is getting worse for pm, not better. but don't mention that at all

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Anybody that thinks playing more games and losing is better vs playing less games and winning is a special human being
i asked you to prove your position. you can't. i asked you to take a poll. you didn't. you just spouted some dumb crap and tried to pass it off as authoritative. being at the highest, most elite level for longer is harder than making it once or twice and winning once. i'm sorry you don't understand that. you're saying that in the last decade, arizona has been a better baseball program than fsu. that is just plain stupid. fsu has 4 cws appearances. ariz has just 2. even if fsu goes 0-2 this time around, they are still clearly a better program.

over the last decade, has ariz been better than lsu? ariz has a nc and lsu doesn't.

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They have all been to the CWS less in that time frame but won more correct?
you are factually wrong yet again. in the last 10 seasons, they have been an equal number of times or more yet, have a lesser investment in the sport. they are doing more with less. you're not even arguing with facts. you're just saying what happened didn't really happen. no wonder you're confused.

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LSU is #2 in win % since 2009
quintessential cherry picking. lsu is equaled or surpassed in cws wins, number of appearances, national championships over the last decade and the case is getting WORSE. pm's nc is more than a decade old now. you are sad.

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You just don't like facts going against your argument
where are the results of your poll?
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16625 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:01 pm to
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quintessential cherry picking. lsu is equaled or surpassed in cws wins, number of appearances, national championships over the last decade and the case is getting WORSE. pm's nc is more than a decade old now. you are sad.


Every argument to be had is cherry picking to a degree. CPM has had a lot of really good years here and his overall stats speak for themselves. The last two years have been a step backwards for sure. I for one tend to think it’s less of a coach issue and more of an injury / bad luck issue. If things continue down the same path next season then his overall performance will need to be evaluated but for the time being I don’t like trying to downplay his accomplishments after two seasons of terrible injuries.

Posted by Whataburger
95.60 Longitude 30.20 Latitude
Member since Jan 2018
700 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:26 pm to
The fricker has no fire left. Doesn't show up for mid-week games. Spews bullshite. Collecting a check.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:42 pm to
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this is amazing. i have consistently supported my assertions with objective substantiation, i.e. facts. then you pipe in with some random, subjective, ill informed statement and call me retarded.


Wow..


It’s almost like this is some of you frickers’ first ‘I want the ______ coach fired and I want him fired NOW!!!’ threads


It’s idiots arguing with idiots. 75% of this board don’t know shite about baseball nor do they know what it takes to build/sustain a successful D1 program... frick, most of the people here think that ‘successful’ equals ONLY championships, and it’s fricking sad
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Every argument to be had is cherry picking to a degree
that's why i covered 3 metrics over a decade in relation to investment to the sport; roi. that's about as broad and sufficient as you can get in a sport with a robust postseason tournament and including the specificity of the cws to baseball

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CPM has had a lot of really good years
debatable and subjective. i am comparing ceteris parabis results. not vague assertions like "fsu sucks" and "who else are you going to get" and "lsu foreverrrrr"

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his overall stats speak for themselves
i totally agree with this. there are several programs over the last decade that have equal or superior cws results despite a lesser investment in the sport. that is neither controversial nor subjective. well, at least for reasonable, unbiased people

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I for one tend to think it’s less of a coach issue and more of an injury / bad luck issue
even if that did explain this season, it doesn't explain the last decade

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I don’t like trying to downplay his accomplishments
and this is the misunderstanding that i have with pm bots. i am not downplaying anything. i am posting facts. they are what they are. they draw their own conclusions

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after two seasons of terrible injuries
i'm looking at a decade. not injuries to a few pitchers in one season
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:24 pm to
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It’s idiots arguing with idiots
i am posting facts. facts you can check yourself

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75% of this board don’t know shite about baseball nor do they know what it takes to build/sustain a successful D1 program
the facts that i am posting don't require knowing every possible thing about every single program in america. moreover, these facts don't require being an experienced head coach. it is comparing the relative results of programs that have made the cws over the last decade.

it has been astonishing to watch this issue evolve over the last 3 years or so. there is a group of people who absolutely cannot deal with these facts and spend an inordinate amount of time twisting themselves into pretzels either making excuses or just denying the reality of them and then calling me names or saying i'm not an lsu fan. wow
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7260 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:37 pm to
It’s weird...but if FSU wins the whole thing...we will have been knocked out of the tourney by 4 national champions in very recent times...Coastal, OSU, UF, and FSU.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16842 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:16 pm to
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No idea, but I trust Woody if it comes to that.


I don't think it will come to that, but if it does, like you, I trust Woody.
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
4769 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:19 pm to
LSU doesn't want to spend money on a buyout....
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7325 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:04 pm to
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and the case is getting worse for pm, not better



His win/loss record doesn’t change if he doesn’t make it there retard.

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asked you to prove your position.


It’s been proven multiple times in multiple threads. Just read.

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. i asked you to take a poll. you
didn't


Don’t need to. Your downvotes speak for themselves every time you post

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being at the highest, most elite level for longer is harder than making it once or twice and winning once.


No shite Sherlock. PM first CWS was in 2008 and latest in 2017. Anything else?

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you're saying that in the last decade, arizona has been a better baseball program than fsu


No but LSU has been better than both

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you are factually wrong yet again.


So your saying UCLA,OSU,UVA haven’t been to the CWS less than LSU since 2009? UVA has the same amount. OSU & UCLA both have less so no I’m not factually wrong. Do you know what a fact is?

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you're just saying what happened didn't really happen. no wonder you're confused.


So you are lying again awesome

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quintessential cherry picking. lsu is equaled or surpassed in cws wins, number of appearances, national championships over the last decade and the case is getting WORSE. pm's nc is more than a decade old now. you are sad.


I could go back to 2008 but I choose not to so no it’s not cherry picking

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where are the results of your poll?


Don’t need one. You have proven to be a liar on multiple occasions. Wear it like a man
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25789 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:04 pm to
Cause I like him
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16842 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:15 pm to
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LSU doesn't want to spend money on a buyout....


Some deep pocket boosters can handle that if that's what Woody wants.
Posted by jman
Member since Feb 2007
602 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:19 pm to
Get the Michigan coach ASAP..
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45265 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:29 pm to
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Get the Michigan coach ASAP..


2013 29-27
2014 30-29
2015 39-25 *Won Big 10
2016 36-21
2017 42-17
2018 33-21

2019
47-20 overall
14-12 away

Overall head coaching record 326-258


Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
10700 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:53 pm to
Because I like him and he is a really nice person.
Posted by jman
Member since Feb 2007
602 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:56 pm to
They will win the national championship and he is at Michigan dumb arse. imagine what he could do at LSU. And he help build Vanderbilt.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 9:00 pm
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45265 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:05 pm to
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And he help build Vanderbilt.


He was at Vandy 2003-2009

2004 Supers
2006 Regional
2007 SEC / SEC Tourney / Regional
2008 Regional
2009 Regional

Vandy won the SEC & CWS in 2011, as their recruiting coordinator he obviously had a hand in this
I’m just not sure he’s a SEC HC
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:46 pm to
Personally if LSU were to make a move I would take Tony Vitello from Tennessee. He built the TCU teams that went to multiple CWS appearances and Arkansas the last couple of years he had a big hand in. Tennessee took a step forward this year.

Good news is he will be available after next year too but at some point these college baseball coaches get established where they are and if they think they can get to the top level there it’s tough to get them to leave to come to the only college baseball program in America that would even think about getting rid of a coach with CPM’s resume.

I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to be like that but it is the only place that would think like this. Makes it hard to leave a place where you have job security for 10 more years. LSU will fire you after 5 years because you don’t win enough in Omaha. Not in the regular season not in the postseason but Omaha specifically.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36162 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:53 pm to
Won a natty and recruits #1 talent in the country for starters.

Our fans suck.
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