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Getting rid of Pelini and Linehan begs one question...

Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted by TotalPotato
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2018
151 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:45 pm
We have paid Bo Pelini $5 million+ not to coach at LSU. Some more buyouts will be paid to Linehan. That is a lot of money for a hire that went wrong...especially when we are $80 million in the red due to the pandemic. Three years ago, we paid Canada $1 million to go away.

We go ahead and hire the next PGC and DC and these hires do not work out and next year again we pay another $3-5 million. How many more mistakes in hiring can we afford?

For the CEO (ace recruiter) head coach with 2 ace coordinators, model to work you need the HC to

[1] Hire good coordinators, who fit well into the program
Here coach has been 1/4. Canada, Linehan and Pelini were the misses and Joe Brady was high (I suspect more by accident than by design, considering that no one know him before our magical season)

[2] The HC should know what system to run, so that continuity is retained.

Coordinator's move frequently every 1-2 years. If you bring in a new coordinator and he keeps installing a new offense / defense each time, it will always be a disaster. You will never have the right personnel to run the system and when you have the right personnel you will have different coordinator. The players will hit the transfer portal in the off season and we will be paying buyouts post season.

Transitioning from a 3-4 to a 4-3 in a year without spring practice and truncated fall practice was not a good decision. Where was the adjustment and improvisation? Forget game time adjustments, what about pre season adjustments and adaptations to fit the skills of the players.

HC are paid to hire coordinators that fit the program and suite the system he wants to run and have the personnel to run
HC and the hired coordinator's are paid to make adjustments and improvise

Sadly, I feel that O neither knows what he wants to run, nor who to hire to keep the program going.

As history repeats itself over and over, we will be paying buyouts after buyouts and throw good money after bad.




Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53729 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:48 pm to
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We have paid Bo Pelini $5 million+ not to coach at LSU.


What I read earlier is that they reached a mutually agreed upon settlement. I would assume that would be less than his contact buyout.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5709 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:03 pm to
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We go ahead and hire the next PGC and DC and these hires do not work out and next year again we pay another $3-5 million

Better increase this amount. If this happens next year LSU will also have to buy out CEO
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6473 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:11 pm to
Auburn just paid their coach $21 million to not coach. R E L A X...
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2753 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:13 pm to
You lost your credibility by downplaying the Brady hire. Otherwise, I think your point was good.
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
5746 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Some more buyouts will be paid to Linehan


Only have to pay Linehan a buyout if he left LSU and went to another SEC school as Offensive Coordinator
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5213 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:33 pm to
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What I read earlier is that they reached a mutually agreed upon settlement. I would assume that would be less than his contact buyout.


He was probably presented with 2 options. Either take a reduced buyout, or you can stay on as DC and continue to embarrass yourself to the point where no one will ever hire you to coach again.

Pelini made the right choice
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:36 pm to
Bama has great success finding coordinators because they can absorb the processes of Saban and go find a HC job. Ours dont do that, we are not near the destination that Alabama is for great coordinators, for that matter we arent as good of a place as Georgia.

O has to show he can groom a man and offer him upward mobility consistently.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5001 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:39 pm to
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$80 million in the red due to the pandemic


We lost $80 million in revenue does not equal we are $80 million dollars in the hole
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5001 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:40 pm to
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we arent as good of a place as Georgia.


Which coordinators from Georgia have left to be HC?
Posted by TotalPotato
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2018
151 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Bama has great success finding coordinators because they can absorb the processes of Saban and go find a HC job. Ours dont do that, we are not near the destination that Alabama is for great coordinators, for that matter we arent as good of a place as Georgia.

O has to show he can groom a man and offer him upward mobility consistently.

Bama is run by Nick Saban. He could hire 10 monkeys to coach under him and still recruit a top ranked class and win a NC. We are not Bama and our HC is not Nick Saban.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2432 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:58 pm to
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Bama has great success finding coordinators because they can absorb the processes of Saban and go find a HC job.


Agreed, the young up and coming coordinators feel they can learn technical and program management aspects from Saban.

Any of Os coordinator hires will know more about game and play calling than O, and will learn little except Boudreaux jokes and Gumbo recipes that appeal to recruiting mamas.
Posted by Cjscore
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2016
591 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
'WE' didn't pay anything. Some very wealthy people paid the sum.
Posted by tigerfan92
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
492 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:10 pm to
it amazes me have everyone on this board knows more about coaching and coaches than our AD and coach O.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33983 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:15 pm to
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We lost $80 million in revenue does not equal we are $80 million dollars in the hole

A large portion of that will be made up in TV and Bowl sharing revenues.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112279 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:16 pm to
The SEC is a couple short years away from collecting a 300 million dollar check every year from ESPN

This is chump change in the long run even with the pandemic
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39108 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:18 pm to
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Only have to pay Linehan a buyout if he left LSU and went to another SEC school as Offensive Coordinator

That makes no sense. That circumstance would be a reason to trigger a payment FROM Linehan, not TO him.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:18 pm to
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Which coordinators from Georgia have left to be HC?

Mel Tucker

And Pittman, although not a coordinator. And now Beamer which was on Smarts staff and was promoted to AHC at OU...now HC at USC. And Lanning is an up an comer. As a matter of fact I imagine Lanning is a P5 HC next year.

The trajectory coming out of UGA as a coach is really good.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:26 pm to
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A large portion of that will be made up in TV and Bowl sharing revenues.

Do you get bowl revenue sharing if you have banned yourself?
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:28 pm to
Exactly. There’s fewer coaches that leave Saban’s teams and find success than those who leave and shite the bed.
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