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re: Getting Bama game moved up on schedule

Posted on 1/14/19 at 12:46 am to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 12:46 am to
Alabama has been in the position relative to LSU a lot longer than O has been around.

First the decision must be made that you even want to stop making them special. That decision has never been made and stuck too.

It's not about him being smart or not. First you have to decide that you're not going to give them a power that they don't deserve. After a decade of eating shite it's not going to happen overnight.

Win lose or draw stop giving them this power over you and eventually it'll pay dividends.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:03 am to
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Alabama has been in the position relative to LSU a lot longer than O has been around.



Try again. LSU last beat bama in 2011. Orgeron first played bama in 2016 with the same oc ...and dc he has now. 2012 - 2015 vs 2016- 2019. Oregons had nearly as much time, without a natty and a runner up for another.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:13 am to
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Alabama has been in the position relative to LSU a lot longer than O has been around.


Try again. LSU last beat bama in 2011. Orgeron first played bama in 2016 with the same oc ...and dc he has now. 2012 - 2015 vs 2016- 2019. Oregons had nearly as much time, without a natty and a runner up for another



LSU hasn't beaten bama since 2011. Ed didn't come on the scene until 2015. Are you trying to tell me that you don't know basic math?
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:13 am to
When we play alabama has ZERO to do with us winning that game or losing that game. It is completely grasping at straws to think that moving that game to October or even September is gonna make some difference. It isn't.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:14 am to
Okay, but Alabama is making LSU "special" and "more important" by taking their bye week every year before the LSU game.

Both teams are placing an emphasis on the game. It doesn't affect Alabama in the least. They still win every year.

Identical. Move it to week one, they still win. The insane fear of Alabama has gotten to the point that LSU fans are crying that we have TOO MUCH TIME to prepare for them. Strangely enough, Bama has the same amount of time, and they just dominate.

LSU had beaten Georgia and MS. State and was playing its best football of the year. A bye never affected Bama. It shouldn't bother LSU if we can compete with them.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:17 am to
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When we play alabama has ZERO to do with us winning that game or losing that game. It is completely grasping at straws to think that moving that game to October or even September is gonna make some difference. It isn't


You're correct. It had nothing to do with winning or losing the game. That's not the point. The point being that as of now you're giving them a position that they don't deserve which in the long run has a negative effect on your relationship with them moving forward. It's mental but a lot of times teams win or lose a game before they even strap it up. Why give your opponents an advantage over you on purpose.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:22 am to
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Okay, but Alabama is making LSU "special" and "more important" by taking their bye week every year before the LSU game.

Both teams are placing an emphasis on the game. It doesn't affect Alabama in the least. They still win every year


That's because they've been dominating this game for so long.


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Identical. Move it to week one, they still win. The insane fear of Alabama has gotten to the point that LSU fans are crying that we have TOO MUCH TIME to prepare for them


This is about dropping any fear or intimidation. I'm sorry that I haven't explained it in a way that it could be understood that it's about not fearing them in the least.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:25 am to
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LSU hasn't beaten bama since 2011. Ed didn't come on the scene until 2015. Are you trying to tell me that you don't know basic math?



Les miles lost regular season games to alabama in 2012 (1), 2013 (2), 2014 (3), ...and 2015 (4).

Ed has lost regular season games, as hc in 2016 (1) , 2017 (2), ...and 2018 (3). This year will be his 4th regular season attempt, which matches Miles. Difference being that miles had actual accomplishments, like sec ...and national titles.

I really shouldn't be having to break things down like this for you.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:42 am to
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I really shouldn't be having to break things down like this for you


Please don't. You have reading comprehension problems.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:01 am to
But LSU and Alabama both schedule their bye weeks the week before their meeting.

Why is it that LSU is intimidated by the schedule and bye, but Alabama isn't?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:25 am to
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Why is it that LSU is intimidated by the schedule and bye, but Alabama isn't


It's not intimidated by the schedule it's about treating them just like everyone else.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:38 am to
But Bama doesn't treat us like anyone else, either. They treat us exactly like we treat them.

Pleasure talking with you, Ben. I enjoyed it.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
18019 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:41 am to
id rather rotate two sec teams each year rather than having to play of the opponents (in our case , UF) every year

why the sec still does this when there are 14 teams in the SEC is beyond moronic..id love to punch the shitstains who thought this would be a great idea after expansion
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 5:55 am to
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over cbs and espn execs dead bodies



CBS has got to be growing tired of the LSU-Bama prime time game.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:56 am to
I know two VERY astute Bama fans, not the 'homer' types, and they are VERY thankful their sched is set up like it is where they play LSU, Miss St and Aub in the back 1/3 of the season. Gives Saban time to get the young guys comfortable in their roles, all playing together; and after a bye where they can get healthy for the final push. Don't see them wanting to change a thing.

Posted by CanIPlay636
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:31 am to
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Playing them before they totally have their shite together.

Are you suggesting our "shite" would be together before theirs?

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Not giving Satan an extra week to game plan.

We couldn't score on Bama with two weeks to prepare, yet one less week to prepare somehow is the answer?

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Ultimately taking all factors into account, higher probability for an LSU win.

Do you really believe that?

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Should it matter when we play them? No. Am I desperate for any advantage possible to beat them? Yes.


Ok I'm in
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19144 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:37 am to
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But basically- he is saying our coaches cant come up with anything to beat Bama




Yep, it's only our coaches that are struggling with this.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:42 am to
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Do you really believe that?

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Should it matter when we play them? No. Am I desperate for any advantage possible to beat them? Yes.


Ok I'm in



Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:57 am to
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Giving Saban two weeks to prepare is usually a loss that's why moving it up matters


They have better coaches, slightly better starters, and much better depth...playing them as early in the season as possible and with them having the minimal amount of time to prepare is better for us.

I do wish the situation was different, but that's not what this thread is about. OP is right.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 7:58 am
Posted by Good Times
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:02 am to
I don’t care when we play them. I care that we play them with a good OL. The rest will take care of itself. When we do break through the drought, it will change the dynamics.
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