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re: Georgia - LSU comparisons by unit
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:40 pm to countryboy2
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:40 pm to countryboy2
I watched much of the North Texas game last weeek, and I've said this till I'm blue in the face that Georgia has some very issues on special teams.
They gave up a 99 yard kick-off return for a TD and a blocked punt for a TD against, yeah, you guessed it, NORTH TEXAS.
To have a chance on winning, Georgia needs to play good football on offense, defense, and special teams as well as minimize any miscues whatsoever.
Georgia is sixth in the nation in total offense. They really, really should not put their defense in bad situations or allow points on special teams and not make unforced errors.
LSU, right now, is the most complete team in the SEC.
They gave up a 99 yard kick-off return for a TD and a blocked punt for a TD against, yeah, you guessed it, NORTH TEXAS.
To have a chance on winning, Georgia needs to play good football on offense, defense, and special teams as well as minimize any miscues whatsoever.
Georgia is sixth in the nation in total offense. They really, really should not put their defense in bad situations or allow points on special teams and not make unforced errors.
LSU, right now, is the most complete team in the SEC.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 10:42 pm
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:50 pm to SuperGameCock
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And by "random" I just meant only posting the stats that favor LSU over UGA, I wasn't saying they weren't true.
That's my point...they're aren't many stats that favor UGA, and don't favor LSU. I even left out some, due to overkill.
You act like I cherry-picked...I addressed the rankings, and compared unit rankings.
Here, check for yourself if you don't believe me:
SEC stats
ESPN-LSU
ESPN-UGA
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 4:38 am
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:55 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
I've give UGA the edge on SOS and being seasoned this year for a big time opponent.
LSU has the edge at WR,OL & DL.
LSU has the edge at WR,OL & DL.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:12 am to JBeam
I have to agree with the enemy here.
North Texas stats you posted indicate a bad defense when it wasn't the defense those points were scored on.
We have better stats in this and that, but you fail to mention only slightly better while Georgia has so far faced much tougher competition than LSU.
Somethings favor LSU statisticly, others favor Georgia. Forget all that crap. It will boil down too a couple of things that aren't in any past game statistics.
1. Is Chavis going to make the needed adjustments to stop Georgia. I am hopeful that he starts up some agressive playcalling that has been held back for just these type of games. Will he?
2. Offensively for LSU, Georgia needs to pressure Mett. If they don't they lose. So to accomplish that it will open up the dump off outlet to the RB and quick strikes TE/WR's. Will we do that? Will it be done well?
That is what the game hindges on and none of that can be known by looking at past games.
North Texas stats you posted indicate a bad defense when it wasn't the defense those points were scored on.
We have better stats in this and that, but you fail to mention only slightly better while Georgia has so far faced much tougher competition than LSU.
Somethings favor LSU statisticly, others favor Georgia. Forget all that crap. It will boil down too a couple of things that aren't in any past game statistics.
1. Is Chavis going to make the needed adjustments to stop Georgia. I am hopeful that he starts up some agressive playcalling that has been held back for just these type of games. Will he?
2. Offensively for LSU, Georgia needs to pressure Mett. If they don't they lose. So to accomplish that it will open up the dump off outlet to the RB and quick strikes TE/WR's. Will we do that? Will it be done well?
That is what the game hindges on and none of that can be known by looking at past games.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:16 am to omegaman66
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North Texas stats you posted indicate a bad defense when it wasn't the defense those points were scored on.
So UGA also has issues on ST.
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We have better stats in this and that, but you fail to mention only slightly better while Georgia has so far faced much tougher competition than LSU.
I addressed that, by home their competition did in other games.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:28 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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TigersOfGeauxld
shhhh....you just got owned by a Cock fan.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:08 am to SpeckledTiger
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shhhh....you just got owned by a Cock fan.
Not even close.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:19 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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You might be surprised to learn that LSU is scoring more PPG than Clemson, 40.3
It's actually 43.3 a game.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:32 am to SuperGameCock
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UGA has gained at least 536 yards in each game, while LSU has only gained more than 460 once in 4 games.
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USC didn't need to keep scoring against Vandy or NC to win
1. You only beat Vandy by 10 points.
2. So you're trying to state that you stopped scoring in those games because you were ahead, however, you don't think LSU stopped trying to rack up yards in big chunks when they were beating UAB by 40? Or when we ahead of Kent State 30? I guess LSU was really trying to rack up yards in those games.
3. None of these stats are important, however, don't try to make a point by saying LSU didn't gain many yards and then come back and say that South Carolina didn't need to score more points in their games.
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Murray had 4 TDs and was 17-23 against USC, a better defense than either TCU
You think that USC's secondary is as good as TCUs?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:35 am to PurpleAndGold86
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UGA posters are defending in Rant threads this week better than their defense has.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:37 am to PurpleAndGold86
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It's actually 43.3 a game.
Well, seems we're both wrong...it's 43.2 according to SEC stats, which I trust more than ESPN. I guess I was looking at old stats ...very nice to be wrong in this lol.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:38 am to TigersOfGeauxld
It is 43.25 a game if you want to be exact. I was using rounding. We've only played 4 games. Just add the number of points and divide by 4. 37+56+45+35=173/4=43.25Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:45 am to PurpleAndGold86
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It is 43.25 a game if you want to be exact. I was using rounding. We've only played 4 games. Just add the number of points and divide by 4. 37+56+45+35=173/4=43.25
Dude, that's too much work lol. Besisdes, it not like it's a snapshot...it's a moving picture.
I'm thinking LSU will end up averaging around 38 PPG by seasons end.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:46 am to SuperGameCock
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You're just stating things in a way attempting to make UGA worse than they really are, and LSU better than they are. Let me try the same thing
This is really simple. Clemson and USCe have shitty defenses and the dawgs have a shite defense. LSU comes out on top by 17
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:51 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Clemson scored 38 against UGA
That was also the first game of the season, UGA is a better team now. Kinda like what happen to Oregon after LSU beat them a few years back.
LSU comes to play they should win.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:01 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Unfotunately, I agree that the transitive property is a poor way to compare the teams. If anything, we probably know a little more about the caliber of team UGA is as compared to LSU.
That said, in a general sense these two teams seem to be mirror images of each other. Sr. QB led offenses who have the ability to hurt you through the air and ground. Two stud RBs who are strong enough to run over you, and fast enough to break a big run at any time. LSU's WRs are better, but UGA has the edge at TE (mainly because they actually throw to the TE more than once a game) While on defense, both teams are talented but somewhat inexperienced. Nevertheless, both have the potential to be really good.
Overall, I'd trust UGA a bit more than LSU on offense. UGA has shown over the past few years that they can be efficient and put up points. LSU has looked really good in the first 4 games, but they haven't played a true road game against a top-notch SEC opponent. Also, history tells us that LSU's offense goes really conservative in big games.
Conversely, I'd trust LSU a little more on defense. Over the last few years, UGA at times has had some ups and downs on that side of the ball despite having some big-time players. While LSU's defense has strugged a bit this year (in comparison to their lofty standards) , great defense has been the hallmark of the Les Miles/John Chavis era. Again, while both teams have some talented players on D, I think LSU is probably more likely to "pull it together" in big game.
That said, in a general sense these two teams seem to be mirror images of each other. Sr. QB led offenses who have the ability to hurt you through the air and ground. Two stud RBs who are strong enough to run over you, and fast enough to break a big run at any time. LSU's WRs are better, but UGA has the edge at TE (mainly because they actually throw to the TE more than once a game) While on defense, both teams are talented but somewhat inexperienced. Nevertheless, both have the potential to be really good.
Overall, I'd trust UGA a bit more than LSU on offense. UGA has shown over the past few years that they can be efficient and put up points. LSU has looked really good in the first 4 games, but they haven't played a true road game against a top-notch SEC opponent. Also, history tells us that LSU's offense goes really conservative in big games.
Conversely, I'd trust LSU a little more on defense. Over the last few years, UGA at times has had some ups and downs on that side of the ball despite having some big-time players. While LSU's defense has strugged a bit this year (in comparison to their lofty standards) , great defense has been the hallmark of the Les Miles/John Chavis era. Again, while both teams have some talented players on D, I think LSU is probably more likely to "pull it together" in big game.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:04 am to Alt26
You left out what has been the deciding factor in past LSU-UGA games: special teams. LSU has a decided edge there.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:08 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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You left out what has been the deciding factor in past LSU-UGA games: special teams. LSU has a decided edge there.
True. And this is a question not a flame, but does LSU have a decided edge? We know that OBJ is an outstanding retun man, but what about the kicking game? Keen has been pretty inconsistent, and has LSU's kicker attempted a FG over 35 yards? Admittedly, I don't know a lot about UGA's special teams.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:10 am to dawgfan24348
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Transitive property works so well
The bigger the sample size, the better it works. If every opponent you face is scoring more than their average when they play you, it might mean there's a problem with your defense. Conversely, if every opponent gives up more than their average when they play you, it might mean you have a good offense. According to the transitive property, Georgia has a good offense and a not-so-good defense. Sounds pretty accurate, no?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:11 am to TigersOfGeauxld
My worry is playing in Ga. They are a much better team at home than they are on the road.If LSU play's 4 quarters we win other wise we lose in a close game! 
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