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re: Fulton halfway through a two-year suspension

Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Sometimes even a dilute sample is considered tampering.

Just a re-test for the NCAA. They test to see if it is diluted on the spot. If so, you pee again. I actually was diluted the one time the ncaa tested me. We had a match the next day, so I was pumping fluids. I was notified that I had an NCAA test in 2 hours. Nothing I could do. First batch of piss was too diluted. Waited 25 minutes, pinched the buttcheeks and bladder as hard as I could, and got enough for a good sample


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Student-athletes who have had a previous positive result, or had previous multiple dilutes, may be subject to follow-up tests and may be tested with an expanded panel that includes street drugs and stimulants.


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Can student-athletes beat a drug test by consuming large amounts of fluids?

No. NCAA protocol requires each student-athlete urine sample be analyzed onsite prior to sending the sample to the lab. If the specimen is too dilute, the student-athlete will be required to remain in drug testing until an adequate specimen is collected.

This could take several hours. A student-athlete who produces multiple diluted samples is subject to follow-up drug tests.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76727 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:01 pm to
Thanks. I wasn't sure on NCAA's procedure.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107944 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:06 pm to
The only ever time someone on our team got an NCAA test, was at the NCAA championships.

And the weird part was, he was a senior, and we had just lost out and were done with competition when he was requested for testing


So no clue what would have happened if he tested positive


Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5056 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Nah, they dont even test for this in their annual testing programs apparently. So either Fulton was an idiot and didnt do his homework and tampered a test that would have been fine, or he was on the juice



Did he travel to the bowl against Louisville? Maybe got tested there where they run the expanded panel?

Just trying to figure out a way where it wouldn't be one of the two options you presented. Both are embarrassingly incompetent.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107944 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:09 pm to
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Did he travel to the bowl against Louisville? Maybe got tested there where they run the expanded panel?
It is possible
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18894 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:11 pm to
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back in the late 90's I know they didn't test for recreational drugs
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The NCAA has been testing for marijuana usage for nearly three decades — since 1986 — but a culture change in our country has forced the group to take a closer look at the impact of the drug on college athletics.


But I agree I thought there was something that said they didnt test for it during their yearly tests, just special occasions
The rule for recreational drugs used to be the school had to set a testing policy (with penalties) and then NCAA became involved if you didn't adhere to that. Not sure when that changed.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76727 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:12 pm to
Sorry you are too busy firing O in every thread to stay on topic, sparky.
Posted by phi1514
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Jan 2008
1331 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:13 pm to
And people still have confidence in Eddie O’s ability to run a major program.

L O freaking L...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107944 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:14 pm to
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The rule for recreational drugs used to be the school had to set a testing policy (with penalties) and then NCAA became involved if you didn't adhere to that. Not sure when that changed.
That is almost the rule

THe difference is, the school doesnt have to set any drug testing policy at all. But if it does, it then has to adhere to it. So, if wanted, a school can not drug test its athletes at all. I believe Oregon is like this
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76727 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:18 pm to
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And people still have confidence in Eddie O’s ability to run a major program.

L O freaking L...



I know. Sheesh. It's crazy. Dumbass O made Kristian provide a fraudulent sample before he was even head coach.
Posted by husslemane
Member since Oct 2014
1324 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Hmmm

Weed and not play college football

Or

No weed and play for millions...

Tough choice these kids have to make. Wouldn’t want to go through that decision.


Or

Go to Bama where apparently, there is no drug testing.

Maybe that's why the recruits are going there LOL
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107944 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Or

Go to Bama where apparently, there is no drug testing.

Maybe that's why the recruits are going there LOL

Yall are both clueless, and embarrassingly obsessed
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18894 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:23 pm to
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That is almost the rule

THe difference is, the school doesnt have to set any drug testing policy at all. But if it does, it then has to adhere to it. So, if wanted, a school can not drug test its athletes at all. I believe Oregon is like this
yep. I remember Ole Miss didn't have one at all for a long while. No coincidence that their in-house penalties are pretty light by comparison.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107944 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:25 pm to
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yep. I remember Ole Miss didn't have one at all for a long while. No coincidence that their in-house penalties are pretty light by comparison.
There current policy is a joke anyway

First failed test-no suspension
Second Failed Test- No suspension
THird failed test-3 games
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:27 pm to
Do they test for Human Growth Hormones? If they are then there is no way in hell Bama can be getting past real random test unless they have some break though masking agent.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27308 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Time to go O. What a joke
this joke by you isn't very funny..
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107944 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:29 pm to
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Do they test for Human Growth Hormones?
Of course not. They arent drawing blood
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
25067 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:31 pm to
Hard to believe the number of people blaming someone else, other than Fulton.

Yep, let's all just call the whole situation O's fault cause how could this be the kids fault.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107944 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Yep, let's all just call the whole situation O's fault cause how could this be the kids fault.

I think people are blaming O for not recruiting this position knowing the lack of players available.....
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75808 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Yep, let's all just call the whole situation O's fault cause how could this be the kids fault.


Straw man argument. No one is saying that O is responsible for the suspension.

What O is responsible for is roster management in the wake of the suspension that's been a known quantity for at least a year now. That is where the criticism is coming in.
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