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Earthquake
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Fulton Breaks the Rule
Fulton breaks a rule and gets ban for 2 years, I get it, but coaches can beat the shite out of their wives girl friends etc, and nothing happens to them.

Players can carry guns, have drugs, committ robbery and with little or no penalties.

This is crazy, the kid has been ban from activity for 18 months already.


Chipand2Putts
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re: Fulton Breaks the Rule
Message...your actions have consequences. Sometimes those aren’t fair.
Hopefully this young man can learn from his mistake, move on, and thrive.


LSUcajun77
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LSUstephen17
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Tampering is a punishment solely for the purpose of setting an example and not for the extent of its wrong doing


LSUcajun77
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Message...your actions have consequences. Sometimes those aren’t fair. Hopefully this young man can learn from his mistake, move on, and thrive


Don’t give me that shite. The sentence was and still is excessive. There are always ways to pay the consequences, learn and be redeemed without needing to serve a full punishment.
26 games is absolutely sickening. He’s a kid, he made a mistake. Do you need to suspend the kid for 26 games to teach a lesson?
He’s done 13 and other things to learn a life lesson here. Let him live his life and the second chance he’s already earned.
This post was edited on 8/9 at 11:20 pm


Beessnax
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Member since Nov 2015
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I agree with you that it does seem a little extreme and I cannot reconcile it with others getting away with thuggery.

That said, he did a very stupid thing. If his piss was going to be positive he should have just let it be positive and ask for help like every one else does. He may be a kid but he blew an opportunity that 99.99% of people don't get. That is on him alone.


JakeFromStateFarm
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Tampering is a punishment solely for the purpose of setting an example and not for the extent of its wrong doing


Yet Alabama obviously tampered in he case of the LB transfer from Washington and nothing will happen to them.


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Member since Nov 2007
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That said, he did a very stupid thing. If his piss was going to be positive he should have just let it be positive and ask for help like every one else does. He may be a kid but he blew an opportunity that 99.99% of people don't get. That is on him alone.


No, not alone.
Our own staff didn't realize the extent of the consequences, either...no way they would've let it get to this point.
I'll go to my grave with that truth.


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Solo Cam
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Message...your actions have consequences. Sometimes those aren’t fair.
So the punishment doesn’t fit the crime but we should be cool with it because some random person said so?

You’re not a sheep, you can think for yourself.

If the rule doesn’t make sense, change the rule.


dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
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Don’t give me that shite. The sentence was and still is excessive. There are always ways to pay the consequences, learn and be redeemed without needing to serve a full punishment.
26 games is absolutely sickening. He’s a kid, he made a mistake. Do you need to suspend the kid for 26 games to teach a lesson?
He’s done 13 and other things to learn a life lesson here. Let him live his life and the second chance he’s already earned.


I think the punishment is bullshite, but would you feel the same about some dude that ends up in jail because he tried to give a fake sample while on probation?



Solo Cam
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Member since Sep 2015
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I think the punishment is bullshitee, but would you feel the same about some dude that ends up in jail because he tried to give a fake sample while on probation?
Are you seriously comparing a student athletes that has literally NEVER been in any trouble to someone on probation?

A more accurate comparison would be if you failed a drug test and instead of not gettin that job you couldn’t get the next 5 jobs you’re qualified for.

Fulton could play for Arkansas, Oregon, Penn State, Mars or Bama and this ruling is still COMPLETE bull shite.

The punishment doesn’t fit the crime. It’s like running a red light and going to jail for 30 days because some random cocksucker said that’s what should have happened. Fuching sheep.
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Scoob
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The punishment doesn’t fit the crime. It’s like running a red light and going to jail for 30 days because some random cocksucker said that’s what should have happened. Fuching sheep.

No, it's like going to jail because you had an accident while driving an uninsured car, then getting caught falsifying documents to try to get over, instead of accepting you were in the wrong.
The penalty isn't for the wrongdoing, it's for the following coverup attempt.


Hot Carl
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Fulton breaks a rule and gets ban for 2 years, I get it, but coaches can beat the shite out of their wives girl friends etc, and nothing happens to them. Players can carry guns, have drugs, committ robbery and with little or no penalties.


These things are way worse, but they don’t fall under the NCAA purview. The cheating on a drug test does. How do you tards not understand this? The penalty is way too harsh, but the NCAA has the jurisdiction and authority to levy it out. They do not on criminal matters. That is up to the city/county/parish/state that the crime occurs in and the school who employs the coach or has admitted the student.


That said, and I’m sure it’s somewhere in the millions of pages of crying women posts, but can Fulton use one of these years as a redshirt? I thought I saw a while back that he couldn’t, but that seems like complete bull shite. You should still have 5 years to play 4. If he has a good year next year, I’m sure he bolt to the league, and who could blame him. But he should at least have the option of coming back for the ‘20 season if he needs to.


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TeamCKennedy
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Feb 2018
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re: Fulton Breaks the Rule
Not quite. He took the test and passed. So it would be like him handing over fake insurance then finding the real legal insurance card.


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Brazos
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But all the NCAA is doing is enforcing the rule he broke. Life isn't fair sometimes but it's not like the NCAA changed the rule after he attempted to fake the test. The lesson here is to know the consequences beforehand and weigh your options.


HighRoller
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Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
1116 posts

re: Fulton Breaks the Rule
If I remember correctly, it was a PED test and he thought it was for weed. Had he done nothing or the staff communicated what was going on we wouldn’t be here.


atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
8300 posts

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If the rule doesn’t make sense, change the rule.
sure, but go through the process to change the rule.

Don't just change it retroactively because it would benefit one of our players.


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memphis tiger
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re: Fulton Breaks the Rule
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Message...your actions have consequences. Sometimes those aren’t fair.


I think people would have much less of a problem with the NCAA decision if they were consistent in their discipline.

Instead they often make decisions that seem unfair, arbitrary and not in the best interest of the student athlete in question.

No one thinks that Fulton should not have been punished, but this punishment seems to not fit the crime. And others have done much worse and gotten less penalty.


BigSquirrel
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Jul 2013
1579 posts

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Meanwhile Hootie and Cam get busted in a car full of drugs with a stolen firearm (5 years min) and get suspended for 0 games from the NCAA. But God forbid you cheat on a test.


BigSquirrel
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And look, I KNOW, it’s hot out there, we work in the AC, I know!


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