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re: Foster Moreau: "[Ensminger] is the best in-game play-caller in the country.”
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:04 am to Fishhead
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:04 am to Fishhead
And what about the shameful part, none of you addressed that. Because you have no shame, with your unreasonable negativity. Again it's a slap in the face to these young men. But in spite of y'all we coming.
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:08 am to LSU Red24
I have all of the confidence in the world in SE. What he did with Cameron's offense in 2016 is enough to convince me that he will do fine. But the best in game play caller in the country? Nah that title goes to lane Kiffin. The dude is a douche bag but you cannot deny that that the man is incredible at calling plays and attacking a defense.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:15 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:wow
What he did with Cameron's offense in 2016 is enough to convince me that he will do fine.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:26 am to justice
What is crazy about that statement? He took Cameron's offense and tweaked it and put up big numbers in comparison to what Cam and Miles were doing. If you don't think SE will do a good job that is your opinion but you cannot deny that he did a good job salvaging that 2016 offense. Personally I think SE will do a good job, concern are the things outside of his control. Mainly how quickly the new offense gels and Orgeron meddling in it.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:42 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:yep he used camerons offense and used it against some of the worst defenses in the country. Im quite sure Cameron could've called those games and surpassed 200 yds rushing a game.
He took Cameron's offense and tweaked it and put up big numbers in comparison to what Cam and Miles were doing
quote:he shite the bed against bama and a depleted florida defense. the redzone offense was terrible.
you cannot deny that he did a good job salvaging that 2016 offense
quote:I hope he does a good job as he is truly wants LSU to be great. I hope O lets him do his thing and doesn't set him up to fail. we both want him to do great I just worry about O and how long he's been away from Calling his offense.
Personally I think SE will do a good job, concern are the things outside of his control. Mainly how quickly the new offense gels and Orgeron meddling in it.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:08 am to justice
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he shite the bed against bama and a depleted florida defense. the redzone offense was terrible.
Yes they got shutout by Bama. But against florida they put up over 400 yards of offense if I remember correctly. If you are going to blame him for that lets be fair. Blame Aranda for not stopping the Notre Dame offense in the 2nd half of the bowl game. How about them 37 point he gave up to Mississippi fricking state.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:10 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:I blame the entire coaching staff for those abortions including aranda.
Aranda for not stopping the Notre Dame offense in the 2nd half of the bowl game. How about them 37 point he gave up to Mississippi fricking state.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:13 am to justice
Ensminger’s 2016 games vs the full year 2015 averages: same ppg and about 25-30 more yards of offense per game.
People get caught up in the Missouri performance, which was absolutely great especially on short notice, but forget we went over 600 yards twice in 2015 and were only 10 yards off of the Missouri record against South Carolina. That doesn’t mean the offense was great, but all of the “omg that had literally never happened before Ensminger” commentary is false.
People get caught up in the Missouri performance, which was absolutely great especially on short notice, but forget we went over 600 yards twice in 2015 and were only 10 yards off of the Missouri record against South Carolina. That doesn’t mean the offense was great, but all of the “omg that had literally never happened before Ensminger” commentary is false.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 7:14 am
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:24 am to justice
Maybe he's from the futureeeeeeeeee bahahah
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:00 am to LSU Red24
I came over to see the downvotes and was not disappointed.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:54 am to SportTiger1
I don't know why you guys always need proof regarding topics discussed. Google finds articles that I like to read about, I always get LSU and Saints related stories everyday. Aranda is the assistant head coach, wouldn't you think that discisions are ran by him. Aranda is always coming out in support of O,if you really paid attention. I guarantee you that someone on this site saw the article I was referring to.Did you see how many down votes I got, not many.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:20 pm to LSU Red24
Good Lord I hope he’s right .
Posted on 8/3/18 at 12:45 pm to Zeek
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You guys hold O accountable even though his teams at Ole Miss were bad. Shouldn't you be expecting him to lose with bad teams.
So youre saying O shouldnt be accountable for his Ole Miss record because his teams were bad???????
HE WAS THE HEAD COACH.
Mental gymnastics by the O-tards never ceases to amaze me.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 1:05 pm to Zeek
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Why do you ignore his record at USC, 6-2 overall,6-1 in conf.
Because these are interim numbers. The job of an interim head coach is not at all the same as a full time head coach who is responsible for hiring, firing, recruiting, managing the program, etc.
FTR, I wish you guys would come together on this point. If you want to include his interim stints, then I'm not going to call this his second year at LSU. He's all but going into his third year, given he coached all but for games of the 2016 season. If you don;t want this to basically be his third year, then stop wanting to include his interim runs just to inflate his overall record. Cool?
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Why do you ignore his LSU record.
I'm not ignoring it, unless you're talking about his interim stint...and if you are see above.
As for what he's done thus far at LSU as a head coach full time, it was underwhelming at best in 2017. He had two tremendously bad losses and one quality win. Throw in the hiring and firing of Matt Canada all within 12 month and then promoting our TE's coach to OC (meaning that our three big coaches at LSU are all part of the previous coach's staff...who we fired) and our lowest ranked recruiting class in 15+ years and I don't see a ton to be positive about.
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It appears to me that he has better athletes to work with, and has achieved better success.
Right...but wasn't that the argument used AGAINST Miles, though? How many times were we told any idiot could waltz in to Baton Rouge and wins 10 games a season with what we have? Now the fact that Orgeron's win/loss record is better than it was at Ole Miss and we are supposed to discount the above claim? I'd agree...great athletes can mask poor coaching.
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So why just the Ole Miss results, seems like you are not utilizing all of the available facts. Why is that?
I've already explained why I'm not using the interim numbers.
If you include his numbers at LSU and add them to his numbers at Ole Miss, he's a staggering 19-29 as a full time head coach of his own program. those are the available stats for the games he coached as a program's full time head coach.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 1:07 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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GeauxTigerTM
I don't think logic and consistency works for some folks
Posted on 8/3/18 at 1:12 pm to Zeek
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ou guys hold O accountable even though his teams at Ole Miss were bad.
His were esepecially bad.
David Cutcliffe at ole Miss was 44-29
Ed Orgeron at Ole Miss was 10-25
Houston Nutt at Ole Miss was 24-26
There's bad...and then there's REALLY bad. Now...if you want to argue that Orgeron was not part of the problem for why HIS teams seemed to suck much for than the teams before and after, the floor is yours.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 1:20 pm to Freauxzen
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I don't think logic and consistency works for some folks
I mean...I've YET to start a thread bashing anyone, and I'm certainly one of the most outspoken critics of Orgeron as LSU's HC. I see no point in doing that.
But...am I also not supposed to answer bullshite threads when they appear? For the sake of "being positive" are we suppose to stick our collectives heads in the sand and pretend up is down and black is white?
I just find it crazy that a guy that was bashed almost nonstop on here for years and years for being "positive" is now thrown under the bus for the exact opposite. Let's not bother to ask what's changed to to absorb the arguments being made...just vilify a differing opinion.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 1:30 pm to 1999
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i am fully expect this offense to set numerous records this season. the hype is insane SEC West or bussssttt
I’m cool with this. Just don’t want any excuses if they fall short
Posted on 8/3/18 at 5:19 pm to TigahJay
No,but he shouldn't have been a world beater, either. At least I consider his whole body of work. Instead of just the Ole Miss record, which fits the O is a bad coach narrative. I also consider USC and LSU,and there is progress.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 5:35 pm to Ripley
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It was reminiscent of Miles play-calling - Playing not to lose.
You're exactly right. It goes hand in hand with the old adage "Scared money never wins. :rimshot:
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