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re: For those that think Miles owes you an explanation regarding Lee
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:39 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:39 am to Mike da Tigah
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but I do thinkthat Both HE and the LSU fan base owes LEE a lot more than we have given him thus far since the Alabama game he struggled in.
Such as?
Show me a fan on here that hasn't said JL did a great job in the first 8 games.
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:40 am to HeadCoach
quote:nope.
No takers on an actual football question? Figures
You're trying to award merit to posters of a web forum.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:40 am to HeadCoach
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No takers on an actual football question? Figures
I did,, and have 3 good friends that coach high school football in LA.
When you have a player that has proven he can play (which is JL) and you have another player that isnt getting it done (JJ) then more times than not its not uncommon to see a switch.
Which didnt happen sat afternoon.
WHat's your fricking point?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:42 am to TIGRLEE
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I did,, and have 3 good friends that coach high school football in LA.
When you have a player that has proven he can play (which is JL) and you have another player that isnt getting it done (JJ) then more times than not its not uncommon to see a switch.
Which didnt happen sat afternoon.
WHat's your fricking point?
I'm going to guess his point is that the head coach decided to keep the starting qb in the game and we won by 30+ points to make the team he coaches 13-0.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:43 am to HeadCoach
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No takers on an actual football question? Figures
And what are your credentials besides calling yourself headcoach?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:45 am to HeadCoach
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how many people (complaining) have ever actually played or coached real tackle football past the 5th grade? Seriously check in.
No takers on an actual football question? Figures
I played in college. But, I'm not complaining too much about the decisions between the two. For some reason, the coaches give JJ a ton more of the playbook to work from. JL had a set group throughout the first 8 games. It was very vanilla. I wonder what they are seeing in practice. Of course, it really looks like neither qb has done much practicing in the passing game over the past 5 years.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:49 am to Topwater Trout
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And what are your credentials besides calling yourself headcoach?
Why say it? So you can call me a liar? I've coached High school and middle school and my point is this; after the 5th grade its no longer about "feelings" and placating parents/fans/interested parties. The best players play, period. And the fact that some of you watch "watch football when you can" doesnt compare to a coaching staff who studies practice and film for 50+ hours a week
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:50 am to Topwater Trout
i'm white and it doesn't matter lee had his chance and once he got lite up in the alabama game he started just throwing the ball in the air for grabs so had to make a change. Think most will agree that lee throws slightly better than jefferson but he runs the ball alot better than lee and he doesn't throw interceptions so thats it better qb is jefferson
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:51 am to Topwater Trout
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ch as? Show me a fan on here that hasn't said JL did a great job in the first 8 games.
I think you're smart enough to realize what I was getting at.
Zero playing time in blowouts in the second half, a glorified take a knee QB, and all the glory to JJ as if JJ was the second coming of Bert Jones, when he's clearly been marginally better than Lee at times, and at other discombobulated and bewildered or missing the mark entirely.
People have put all their hopes in Jordan Jefferson, with Lee getting no PT, but I still highly suspect that before this season is over with, namely in the BCS Championship game we will need the services of Jarrett Lee. Let's just hope he has the confidence and will to pull it off if called upon.
My biggest concern is that due to his complete absence in game time experience he will be thrown into a blast furnace without the time behind center to be at his best. This didn't need to be this way had he just been given a little more PT in these blowouts.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:02 am
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:53 am to tigertalkster
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i'm white and it doesn't matter lee had his chance and once he got lite up in the alabama game he started just throwing the ball in the air for grabs so had to make a change. Think most will agree that lee throws slightly better than jefferson but he runs the ball alot better than lee and he doesn't throw interceptions so thats it better qb is jefferson
If UGA's dbs could catch, JJ threw a possible two pick 6's in the first half. So, maybe it should be "his interceptions don't get caught because he throws such a awful pass" rather than he doesn't throw picks. By the way, JL has only thrown 3 this year. Considering the amount of attempts, that is pretty dang good.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:04 am to Tiger Vision
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He doesnt owe us anything but are we not the ones paying his salary? He does represent us on a national level and his handling of This situation deserves some explanation. What would it hurt to say that lee has made some bad choices and his playing time is being impacted due to those decisions. If we arent paying his salary then who is?
You're the guy who tells a cop that you pay his salary when you get pulled over, don't you?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:06 am to Hat Tricks
You are confusing "owing an explanation", to "wanting an explanation".
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:08 am to HeadCoach
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HeadCoach For those that think Miles owes you an explanation regarding Lee quote: how many people (complaining) have ever actually played or coached real tackle football past the 5th grade? Seriously check in. No takers on an actual football question? Figures
I have!!
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:08 am to BeeFense5
I am not surprised but I do find it interesting that if you think Lee should be playing and give concrete reasons why, JJ's play, his asinine quotes (put the team on his back,) and so forth your a racist.
If you support JJ no matter how he plays 0 first downs in the entire first half, numerous career games where he couldnt break 100 yards passing including a 4 yard total offense game vs McNeese, 25 versus Georgia and 40 something vs ULM your a true Tiger fan.
I for one have never stated or demanded Miles should give us an explanation but I have said I think Lee should start and Miles treats him differently than JJ i.e. JJ's 7 straight horrible performances last year and remained the starter and Lee having one bad game this year and is immediately benched not just for the game but the season. If you cant see the level of accountability being different for JJ than Lee you dont want to. Miles doesnt have to explain it to anyone but it is there and obvious.
Also BeeFense has claimed I have knighted Lee and think he can do no wrong. Beefense please link where I have stated Lee is a great qb or is beyong criticism. What I have said is he is better than JJ. The list of college qb's that are better than JJ is quite long and being better than JJ doesnt make you great. It just means your better than a bad qb.
As far as them being equal you can argue but I find it interesting that JJ couldnt manage a first down in an entire half and only put up 25 yards of total offense for the game and that isnt even his worst career game. Please show me a game where Lee played anywhere near the amount of time JJ played Saturday night and put up 4 total yards or 25 total yards.
Lastly I cant wait for Beefense/Choctaw or Uncommon Nonsense to point out how JJs play Saturday night keyed the LSU victory and he is a winner and Sat nite just adds to his credentials. Of course JJ himself may come out and tell us himself how well he played and put the team on his back.
If you support JJ no matter how he plays 0 first downs in the entire first half, numerous career games where he couldnt break 100 yards passing including a 4 yard total offense game vs McNeese, 25 versus Georgia and 40 something vs ULM your a true Tiger fan.
I for one have never stated or demanded Miles should give us an explanation but I have said I think Lee should start and Miles treats him differently than JJ i.e. JJ's 7 straight horrible performances last year and remained the starter and Lee having one bad game this year and is immediately benched not just for the game but the season. If you cant see the level of accountability being different for JJ than Lee you dont want to. Miles doesnt have to explain it to anyone but it is there and obvious.
Also BeeFense has claimed I have knighted Lee and think he can do no wrong. Beefense please link where I have stated Lee is a great qb or is beyong criticism. What I have said is he is better than JJ. The list of college qb's that are better than JJ is quite long and being better than JJ doesnt make you great. It just means your better than a bad qb.
As far as them being equal you can argue but I find it interesting that JJ couldnt manage a first down in an entire half and only put up 25 yards of total offense for the game and that isnt even his worst career game. Please show me a game where Lee played anywhere near the amount of time JJ played Saturday night and put up 4 total yards or 25 total yards.
Lastly I cant wait for Beefense/Choctaw or Uncommon Nonsense to point out how JJs play Saturday night keyed the LSU victory and he is a winner and Sat nite just adds to his credentials. Of course JJ himself may come out and tell us himself how well he played and put the team on his back.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:09 am
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:09 am to lake chuck fan
it is about race, and lake chuck is proving that
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:10 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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You are confusing "owing an explanation", to "wanting an explanation".
No, I'm not. I'm just using the word that I have heard or read a lot of other fans use. If you want an explanation rather than think it is owed to you, then this thread obviously isn't for you since it is titled: For those that think Miles owes you an explanation regarding Lee.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:13 am
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:11 am to TIGRLEE
Tigrlee stop lying u ain't played an ounce of ball except on Xbox! Any real coach/player would see that JJ's attributes outweigh JL any day.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:13 am to dgnx6
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it is about race, and lake chuck is proving that
So even if I took your statement as true your saying all who support Lee are racists and all who support JJ are true fans?
I for one and many I know supported Rohan over Booty, Tyler over Sparacino so that makes me a racist. Next year if I support Mett over Randall because I believe he is a better qb as a RS junior than a RS frosh am I being racist? If in 2014 if I support Randall over Rivers am I being a reverse racist against Rivers?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:17 am to TIGRLEE
Life isn't fair. This isn't the special olympics where everyone gets a first place ribbon. If you are so concerned with emotions you should go paint your nails and stop watching football.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:18 am to bojabu
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I feel that he owes me an explaination for several reasons. One reason is because I defended him against negatigers so staunchly
i'll see if i can get Miles to write you a thank you letter
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If I'm a recruit, I could easily say, "The starter gets suspended, and the backup comes in, which could well be me at some point. I do well, have one bad game, and then no matter how good/bad the starter does from that point on, I will never get another chance to play." And to me, that is the main reason he owes people an explaination.
backups know that they're backups. Like another guy said yesterday....do you think TJ Yates is going to be pissed off when he gets benched after Matt Schaub comes back? No...because he knows he's a backup.
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For top tier talent, it probably doesn't matter, because they expect to start, but when that next quality depth guy like Lee is looking at Lsu, he might think about what happened, and to me, it's an unmeasurable drawback to Miles' silence.
you have no idea what Miles tells recruits, players, players families, recruits families....you just know what he's not telling you. and it doesn't matter what he's not telling you....no matter how important you think you are
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