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re: For those that think Miles owes you an explanation regarding Lee

Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:41 am to
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My only real issue is the message it sends. We are going to bail on Lee at the very first moment of adversity, notwithstanding all he has done for us throughout near impossible circumstances. The kid has been standup and caused us no problems, but we're bailing on him. Alternatively, the kid that has caused a lot of adversity, both on and off the field, is the one that we will stand behind no matter what. That's the Miles message.


he was a backup....he always was the backup. why is this so hard some to understand?
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:43 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:41 am to
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it is about race, and lake chuck is proving that


From one narrow mind to another huh?
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:41 am to
For what why would he get in the game?!?!
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:42 am to
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he always was the backup. why is this so hard some to understand


He wasn't the backup until the second half of Alabama.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:44 am to
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He wasn't the backup until the second half of Alabama.


JJ was named the starter at the beginning of the season. He was going to start again eventually after his suspension was up. this is a fact.
Posted by The Gooch
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2009
1254 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:44 am to
Some folks were quiet the past few weeks....boy, are they making up for lost time. I'm sure they coudln't wait to get on here and say "I told ya so!!!" Really sad....No one is sayin dude had decent game. In fact, he had a subpar game. But he is the starting QB and nothing is going to change that. He is our best option. His negatives are not as bad as the back-up's negatives...His positives outweigh the back-up's positives....the end.

You jackasses can come out of the woodwork everytime JJ has a bad game to scream "he's retarded and can't read defenses!" or "He looks constipated out there!!" or " I like black people, I really do!", but it won't change the fact that the coaches trust him more than the other other guy....
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:45 am to
I'll give it a try.....Lee threw his second interception in 8 or so games almost setting an LSU record for most consecutive passes without an interception and he was out for the next drive. Jefferson led an offense that became the first SEC team in the last decade to fail to get a first down in the first half and he never came out.
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:45 am to
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Sure. They were getting that "arse taxed". Did that make JJ wait unitl ODB33 completed his button hook to throw the ball? Did that make JJ air mail a slant to RR2 in which Randle was WIDE OPEN? Did that make JJ underthrow RR2 on the second play of the game in which RR2 had the defender beat by 2-3 steps in single covg? Not only underthrow, but throw so dang late he didn't have the arm to get it there?

These three plays CHANGE the game. Because these plays were not made, we are behind the sticks in bad down and distance situation. It just compounds the senario. He was lucky that rambo didn't react quick enough to the ODB33 buttonhook. He was lucky that the other corner for UGA had his air mail pass hit him and fall incomplete. If JJ was a serviceable qb, we aren't making the follow up calls which left us no chance.


:crickets:

And oh, btw, on the long ball to RR, there was no pressure on the QB.

HE JUST CAN'T PULL THE TRIGGER.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:45 am to
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He wasn't the backup until the second half of Alabama.


People suffer from short term memory loss, or maybe it's selective memory loss. Not too sure which one it is.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:46 am to
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Don't be surprised if Lee gets some series against bama in throwing/passing situations. Our passing game has been mysteriously void in the last two games. Maybe Miles has something up his sleeve.


JJ had 208 yards against Arkansas which was the second highest passing total of the season behind lee's 213 at west Virginia. The passing game hasn't disappeared. It was awful on Saturday, yes. But not a trend like you think.
Posted by smooth99
Member since Oct 2003
717 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:46 am to
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I will give u the RR throws and also that long throw was not because he didn't have the arm it's because that ball didn't come out his hand right at all period. The pass to obj was well defended Boykin was in his hip pocket get over it! Even Danielson said the pass was perfect. He had a horrible first half along with all of the offense and offensive coaching staff.


Right, the ball did come out incorrectly, however, if it was thrown on time RR still has a shot. Yes, the ODB was pass was perfect, after the buttonhook. If it is thown on time, completion. This is major college football, and he is a senior qb. Really?

Get over it? I'm not really upset. It is just an observation. JJ stunk. He has stunk for the better part of 4 years. It is the same problems, the same stuff. He hasn't progressed as a qb, AT ALL. My big question is: Is it coaching? Or is it that we have two guys that can't be coached?

JL seems like he has improved in some aspects, but he still struggles at seeing the blitz and making adjustments.

We will know a lot more once neither one of these guys are on the field. Personally, I think JL should have gone in during the 2nd quarter at least for a series if nothing else just to calm JJ down.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:47 am to
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Some folks were quiet the past few weeks....boy, are they making up for lost time. I'm sure they coudln't wait to get on here and say "I told ya so!!!" Really sad....No one is sayin dude had decent game. In fact, he had a subpar game. But he is the starting QB and nothing is going to change that. He is our best option.


You are talking out of your arse. I don't know how you reach this conclusion. He has shown himself for the last 3 years to be a very poor quarterback and Lee has proved himself to be a servicable quarterback this year.
Posted by The Gooch
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2009
1254 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:48 am to
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You are talking out of your arse. I don't know how you reach this conclusion. He has shown himself for the last 3 years to be a very poor quarterback and Lee has proved himself to be a servicable quarterback this year.


...I just so happen to trust the coaches...but maybe the coaches should consult you...
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:50 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:50 am to
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He has shown himself for the last 3 years to be a very poor quarterback


2009

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Lee has proved himself to be a servicable quarterback this year.


so has JJ....except for 1 game....just like Lee
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:50 am
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:50 am to
Go ahead and show me which game Lee started and played an entire half and led the team to 0 first downs or the whole game and compiled 25 yards total offense? Or haw about played a large portion of the game and piled up 4 yards of total offense and was quoted as saying how well he played.

I know your not good at addressing facts and like making up your own but I have never said Lee was a great qb just better than JJ.

SO to ask you a question which I doubt you will answer your position is fans should support the players and coaches blindly no matter how they play or perform?

So in the Curly days were you blindly supporting LSU keeping Curly no matter what? LSU has won a good portion of JJ starts in spite of him not because of him but dont let his statistics and performance sway you!
Posted by fanrun
Omaha, Ne
Member since Jan 2008
1277 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:50 am to
Tell me why we didn't see JL the end of 2nd quarter when JJ couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. He was just off, The skill set at that time for that situation was a fit for JL.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:54 am to
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so has JJ....except for 1 game....just like Lee


Uh the difference being Lee had one off game in 9 starts, JJ 1 in 4 which is actually better than JJ historically has been. Even the Bama game where the fanbois sainted JJ he did very little.

Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:54 am to
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Go ahead and show me which game Lee started and played an entire half and led the team to 0 first downs or the whole game and compiled 25 yards total offense? Or haw about played a large portion of the game and piled up 4 yards of total offense and was quoted as saying how well he played.


he didn't. but JJ hasn't thrown 2 interceptions in a game this year either. it goes both ways

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I know your not good at addressing facts and like making up your own but I have never said Lee was a great qb just better than JJ.


don't care. the coaches know more than you

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SO to ask you a question which I doubt you will answer your position is fans should support the players and coaches blindly no matter how they play or perform?


when those coaches are 13-0, SEC champs, and about to be national champs....yes

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So in the Curly days were you blindly supporting LSU keeping Curly no matter what?


Not always....see above. but i did root for him every day he was wearing purple and gold because i don't have the power to fire coaches

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LSU has won a good portion of JJ starts in spite of him not because of him but dont let his statistics and performance sway you!


LSU has won a good portion of its games despite both QBs the last few years...not because of them
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:54 am to
I'm still waiting for you ti provide that link, or are you content with being a liar?.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:57 am to
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don't care. the coaches know more than you


Never said I did but I do know coaches arent infallible ....see the almighty Nick Saban starting Booty over Rohan for most of the 2000 season!

I also do have eyes but feel free to convince me you honestly think JL could have done worse than JJ Sat nite.
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