re: For those of you who think NIL is good for college sports.

Ya think?

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The biggest disconnect is that the fans are the revenue. Whatever their perception is of the sports is really all that matters. If they are turned off by the new shape college sports, the revenue will suffer. Seems to be an overlooked fact in this discussion.

Is it good for players? Perhaps in the immediate/short term. But I think we are seeing in real time that only a few schools will be able to play this game effectively, and even schools like LSU that have been historically successful will be holding the bag. National intrigue will diminish and these kids who have really proven nothing about their playing ability will no longer be treated with kid gloves by fans and media.

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The fans are the revenue in every sport, college or professional.

What you really want is a salary cap and relative parity.

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I don’t think the players are the most important piece of that equation, I think it’s the fans’ relationship with the school. To a degree I think that same relationship has driven popularity in professional sports.

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Exactly. Just like professional sports, the key is the fans' relationship to the team. The players are not an important piece of the equation because the relationship of the fans to the teams doesn't change if the players are paid more.

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This is such a naive point of view.

We are talking about 17 & 18 year olds. 17 & 18 year old kids who have money grubbing handlers and relatives pulling their naive, highly ignorant strings.

Lots of kids are going to be steered to programs that are not in their best interests. They will be programs in their handlers best interests. Lots of these kids are going to wind up broke, no education, and blown opportunities.

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Soooo let's go back to the good old days of players getting bad advice and not getting paid because . . . the schools and coaches are not getting paid billions and millions?

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Sure, some will get great deals that will enrich them and their families. The majority, however, will be played. They will go to schools that they don’t really want to, aren’t in their long term best interests, and they will find themselves miserable while uncle rob and handier joe are blowing their money.

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How very patriarchal of you to determine whether people should get paid or not. I bet you love big government telling people who should get paid and who should not.

Dem kids just gonna waste dat money.

And I assume you mean all of the kids are going to waste the money. Because I don't think you'd want some people to suffer (good, honest kids) simply because other people make bad decisions (poor decision-making kids).

And maybe, as the money increases, the players will get better people involved who will give them better advice.


Nah, you're probably right. No 17 to 25 year old person has ever made a solid decision, and none of them should be allowed to earn what they are worth. You know better than them. You should make the rules for them.

They should thank you Big Brother for your beneficence.

They are compensated and depending on the school up to $150,000 per year in tuition, books, food, entertainment, lodging, tutoring and education, travel...they and they are the ones most likely to get NIL...leave college to earn multi million dollar contracts in sport.

none of those things happen to a accounting student.

To give me the bull that they are not compensated...is really pretty damn stupid.

Excuse my ignorance, but just where did all of this mess get started. Was it private or did the universities start it. I don't know myself.

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As a firm believer in free markets, I believe the players should receive what the market would bear

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ok. Then tax them on their tuition, room and food as taxable income because they are now employees.

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You've got to be fricking kidding me.

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Not in the least. Nothing in that article is inconsistent with my statement. Had EA Sports approached Ed O'Bannon and offered him a million dollars to appear in one of their games without any UCLA or NCAA logos, names, or symbols, the NCAA would not and could not have stopped him from quitting the UCLA Basketball team and appearing in their game. The NCAA would not have allowed them to use the NCAA's or UCLA's name or likeness in such a game, and that is their right because those names, logos and symbols belong to the NCAA and UCLA. But they would not have interfered at all with EA Sports producing a game with Ed O'Bannon's name and face on it and no UCLA or NCAA references. The problem for the Ed O'Bannon's of the world is that nobody is interested in an Ed O'Bannon game; they are only interested in an NCAA game with UCLA in it. Ed O'Bannon's name, image, and likeness, had essentially zero market value to a video game company without the name, image, and likeness of the NCAA and UCLA, which do not in any way belong to Ed O'Bannon. At all times he was free to do whatever he pleased with HIS name, image, and likeness; instead he CHOSE to play NCAA Basketball in exchange for a free scholarship and NCAA benefits.

I have no interest in arguing the NIL or paying players issue. I simply wanted to point out the egregious misinformation being employed by those advocating more money for the players. Again, if their position was as strong as they claim it is, I don't believe they would feel the need to lie and obfuscate this point. But they do because they do not want the public to understand that this entire arrangement was at all times a free choice by the players. No one forced them to play football (or whatever sport), and the NCAA rules did not prevent them from pursuing any other opportunities instead. It was (and is) the NFL and NBA rules that excluded the players from those leagues based on age, not the NCAA (remember how Maurice Clarett didn't sue the NCAA, he sued the NFL?).

So having made my point, and now having explained it again clearly, I'm done. If anybody wants to keep perpetuating the bullshite that the NCAA somehow kept the players from quitting NCAA Football or Basketball and pursuing any financial opportunity outside the NCAA they wanted, so be it. But it's a lie and nobody has to listen to it.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!

Uhhh - didn't a boat load of y'all say "pay the players"??

Isn't that the way it is now?
The same teams assure good every year basically.


The same teams make the college football playoff.

Not all the same teams every year but the same ones are good every year